is this normal?

[redneckk]

today my DJ stopped so i unscrewed the crown to wind it manually. i could hear the gears turning but the second hand still didnt move at all. i wound it a few rounds but still nothing happened. i then shook the watch a few times and it finally started moving. is this normal? isn't the manual winding supposed to power the watch up? my parents always manually wind their DJs when they stopped.

[pegasi]

I have read somewhere that some said this is normal, but to me this is not normal. It should mean that it's time to send the watch for servicing.

[breitling77]

Sometimes such features are possible. If you are not sure, send it for a check and see what they say. Most likely the lubricants are used. Do check.

[minimerc]

U shd "swirl" the watch first before manually winding it. Seconds hand will start to move before u wind it.

[pegasi]

U shd "swirl" the watch first before manually winding it. Seconds hand will start to move before u wind it.

What's the difference between swirling the watch before and after manually winding it?

I just did a test with 2 of my automatic watches with manual winding capability - a Rolex GMT 2C and a Laco with ETA movement. I manually winded up the watches from complete stop, keeping the watches still in the process. In both cases the second hand started to move after a few winds.

[redneckk]

btw bros. i think i have encountered this in pre-owned shops before too. watch was sleeping. i manually wind. nothing happened. shook it a lil, woke up.

[KuchingKu]

You need to wind a few round to move a completely stopped sec hand. Shaking it a bit also can achieve.

[waneteo]

quite normal, happened to my sub and exp2 too

[pegasi]

Erh...I think some bros mixed up "normal" with "common". While TS case is quite common due to that many people do not send their watches for servicing until there is a problem, it is not normal that a watch with manual winding feature needs to be shaked to start ticking.

It is probably not a big problem but signals that the movement requires cleaning and re-lubricating (=servicing).

[redneckk]

maybe i just didnt wind enough as bro kck suggested. cos i wound like maybe 3 rounds then i kan cheong already. started shaking it instead. lol.

[Chunster69]

I notice this with my Exp2....if I did not wear it for sometime (say 1 week)....the second hand does not move even if I wind like 20-turns....need a swirl like the bros here say.

but if I did not wear it for say just 2 days and it stopped, I usually can manage to get the second hand moving by winding around 10 turns

I hope this does not mean my watch is due for servicing as it is only 3 years old....but I do notice that my other automatic watches' second hands take a lot less turns to move compared to the rollie no matter how long it did not wear them for...

[Watcha]

If completely stopped, need to wind quite a few time to kickstart.

I reckon need 10 wind before seconds hand moving. Usually I do 20 wind then set time n date.

I have no winder so always have to set time. After around 40 winds, didn't really count, you can feel the slipping clutch.

[redneckk]

so im glad to know my watch is relatively normal. but i probably should service it soon anyway. thanks to all bros for advice!

[minimerc]

i'm also a newbie, was told my watch technicician the following: see if anyone can confimr if this is a myth or fact:
both are different ways of powering up an auto watch. manual windiing 1 rounds ~ 2 hours of power, whereas "swirling" probably provides a mninute of power. the latter is a more gentle way of feeding power to a very starved watch and it causes less wear to the power mechanism.

What's the difference between swirling the watch before and after manually winding it?

I just did a test with 2 of my automatic watches with manual winding capability - a Rolex GMT 2C and a Laco with ETA movement. I manually winded up the watches from complete stop, keeping the watches still in the process. In both cases the second hand started to move after a few winds.