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  • Use Winder or leave the watch "dead"?

    Hi Gurus,

    I am just curious on this as different people tell me different answers.

    Question: Should automatic watch be placed in Watch-winder all the time or just keep it unwind (i.e. time not moving)?

    1.) Some people tell me to leave in the watch winder to keep the mechanics moving and prevent oil dry up.
    2.) Some people tell me to leave it "dead" as continuous movement will cause wear and tear.

    So which is which? Any comments welcome!

    Cheers!
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    Rolex Submariner 16110 LV
    Tudor Glamour DayDate, 56003
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  • #2
    I am also curious to know the answer

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    • #3
      Answers are all over in this forum. Use the search function. I've read this over and over already.

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      • #4
        Wow! jialat.....2.) Some people tell me to leave it "dead" as continuous movement will cause wear and tear.

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        • #5
          wow..Mr Ocean aka mod to be....ur reply seem very familiar....like mike from WUS...hahahahaha
          Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak

          Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen

          Quoted from Sir Winston Churchill

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          • #6
            Pl don't say that and I don't know who "mike from WUS" is. I've read and shared in this topic before, so can roughly recall. Whether you 'buy' the concept of having a device to wind your watches is subjective. If you are one who has numerous watches (and most of automatic movement), it makes sense to possess a winder for convenience sake. If you only own few automatic watches, then I do not see the need. But that's me. It's a personal choice afterall.

            Very simple logic - as long as the movement keeps moving (whether on the wrist/winder), the wear-and-tear comes faster, as compared to one that can rest at times. Similarly, if a watch movment is left 'unmoved' for a long time, the mechanisms will 'clot' so to speak. So a balance of both is good, naturally. Again, it is subjective.

            You choose what you believe in.

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            • #7
              Hahaha...mike is a moderator in WUS with the similar reply as u mah...hahaha...his fave phase is USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.....just ribbing u lar...aiyo..hehehe...no offence taken ar...hehehe..

              Back to topic as above...for me i do not use winders...for those pieces that i dun wear often, i usually will give them a full wind once a month to keep the lubrication oils in the watches running...

              For those i wear regularly, i simply wind and set the time/date when i wan to wear lor...

              My personal way of maintaining nia....hehehehe
              Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak

              Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen

              Quoted from Sir Winston Churchill

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              • #8
                These need winders?

                http://sg-roc.com/showthread.php?p=305404#post305404
                http://sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=43783

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                • #9
                  haahahahaha...i m human winder...lol.....
                  Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak

                  Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen

                  Quoted from Sir Winston Churchill

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                  • #10
                    Ocean bro always provide links for people....

                    Ocean bro = Search function?

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                    • #11
                      Mr Ocean is the mod in the making....always assisting newbies...great guy to have in this wonderful forum...
                      Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak

                      Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen

                      Quoted from Sir Winston Churchill

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                      • #12
                        I have been a newbie once and I respect those who have been patient and understanding to me. In my very 'limited' capacity, as long as I can help, I'll alway try. And no, I'm not your "search function"..
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                        • #13
                          Watches are desigened and made to move, A moving watch can keep the lub oil all over the parts of the watch so that the wear and tear would keep minimun and even no. I use the watch winder to keep my watches running 24 hrs a day and 365 days unless I put them in my safe box when travelling.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by prince7 View Post
                            Hi Gurus,

                            I am just curious on this as different people tell me different answers.

                            Question: Should automatic watch be placed in Watch-winder all the time or just keep it unwind (i.e. time not moving)?

                            1.) Some people tell me to leave in the watch winder to keep the mechanics moving and prevent oil dry up.
                            2.) Some people tell me to leave it "dead" as continuous movement will cause wear and tear.

                            So which is which? Any comments welcome!

                            Cheers!
                            Watchwiders are just purely a modern day convenience,with out doubt the best winder is your own wrist.IMHO automatic watches are designed to be worn by people only and not machines and while on a machine its in the same position for hours, days or weeks .Now most people move in a huge diversity of manners, causing a fairly even distribution of motion of the watches winding mechanism and escapement position. A watch winder is normally limited to a very small number of directions and types of movement normally just on a repetitive back and throe.IMHO a badly designed winder could in theory damage a watch and cause wear from excessive and repetitive movement on the same plane and axis to the escapement wheel pinions.Now because the oils used in most modern watches today, and when properly serviced are not very prone to clotting or coagulating like the old mineral oils. So its not a problem to just rest a watch for a month or longer then just wind reset and go must take all of 30 seconds to do.But if resting for longer than a month I would recommend just a small wind just to keep the very tiny amount of oil around the movement.

                            While there is no significant evidence that a good watch winder will either save or harm your watch.Over the many years of dealing with Rolex Bexly and talking to the various watchmakers there, who did not recommend watch-winders for any of the Rolex line up.Its quite funny now that Rolex have brought out a Rolex branded winder,its simple today many watch winders = big £££$$$ and huge profits.IMHO many watch-winders today have a high quality finish on the outside (to justify the extremely high price),but hiding some very cheaply mass-produced insides. .

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Romeo116509 View Post
                              Watches are desigened and made to move, A moving watch can keep the lub oil all over the parts of the watch so that the wear and tear would keep minimun and even no. I use the watch winder to keep my watches running 24 hrs a day and 365 days unless I put them in my safe box when travelling.
                              I understand the theory that the lub oil might get harden and jam the movement if it does not move for a long time. But how that would cause "wear and tear" when the movement is not running I don't understand...
                              Watches are like potato chips - You never stop at one

                              Never political, seldom diplomatic, always honest

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