Official Submariner and Seadweller thread!

[keltzar]

Makes me wonder I should buy a spare sea dweller 16600.

re: DeepSea - looks like the same design crew behind the YM-II strike again. People who buy the new SD-DS are almost as if want to make sure people know what you're wearing.

[feudallordcult]

Don't know ... I have the current SeaDweller and like it very much. To me, the new Deep Sea is blardy ugly. Somehow I find that they could have dialed back on the usage of their new "slogans" a lot. The technical improvements are good, but they went overboard on the design.

Not so for the GMT Master IIc, which I found was a real improvement.

most well-said! take a baby step forward with the technological advancement that people will NEVER need and going backwards by a MILE by removing all the classic features that depicts of a rolex diver. since rolex likes to add so many words in front, may as well change the words to "original fart gas escape valve" & "cock-ring-lock-system", like that better can fill up the whole ring.

Makes me wonder I should buy a spare sea dweller 16600.

re: DeepSea - looks like the same design crew behind the YM-II strike again. People who buy the new SD-DS are almost as if want to make sure people know what you're wearing.

and i thot pammies were loud...no offence to pam lovers. i love pammies too.

[feudallordcult]

List price is USD $9500 i heard

bro, that actually means a DSSD can buy almost 2.5 SDs. this is some sad crap.

[jazz_samz]

Bro Feudallordcult...

That makes you a happier man with yr M-series SD right? I definitely won't trade 2.5x SD for the new DSSD man..

[cmsoh]

You havent seen the new Sub blue dial/bezel...KNS even worse

I did ... lagi KNS with the robin-egg blue ... sigh ...

The black's not too bad, but overall, I think only GMT IIc was an improvement.

But this is good news for me lar ... if everyone chiong the new subs and DSSD just because they're new, then hopefully demand for GMT IIc go down, then it become affordable for me !! As in can get discount off list-price instead of premium price now.

[Darkangel]

Makes me wonder I should buy a spare sea dweller 16600.

re: DeepSea - looks like the same design crew behind the YM-II strike again. People who buy the new SD-DS are almost as if want to make sure people know what you're wearing.

Yeah lor...

I did ... lagi KNS with the robin-egg blue ... sigh ...

The black's not too bad, but overall, I think only GMT IIc was an improvement.

But this is good news for me lar ... if everyone chiong the new subs and DSSD just because they're new, then hopefully demand for GMT IIc go down, then it become affordable for me !! As in can get discount off list-price instead of premium price now.

I think...DSSD would follow YMII. At first they thought the YMII come out,YM will be collectible but end up like Exp II problem.

So I suggest...those who want to get SD wait first,dun chiong in now. They will most probably keep both like the case of Exp II and YM II.

[cmsoh]

So how's the general sentiment? Do most people like the SD DS and the new Sub? Or not ....

How to start a poll?

[Darkangel]

So how's the general sentiment? Do most people like the SD DS and the new Sub? Or not ....

How to start a poll?

SDDS and new sub..is

[jazz_samz]

Ask you all ah...

For 16610, when you release the crown to the 1st position, its in the winding mode right?
When you say wind it in accordance to recommendation here, 40 turns CW to "fully wind" the watch, do you feel any resistance once you pass 40, or does it stays the same kind of feel???

Anybody peal off the GREEN sticker on the back of the case? Is it more recommended to leave it or remove it?

[minusplus]

For me, I don't touch the GREEN sticker. I mean it's not bothering me lor... So just leave it alone...

[^Lee^]

Ask you all ah...

For 16610, when you release the crown to the 1st position, its in the winding mode right?
When you say wind it in accordance to recommendation here, 40 turns CW to "fully wind" the watch, do you feel any resistance once you pass 40, or does it stays the same kind of feel???

Anybody peal off the GREEN sticker on the back of the case? Is it more recommended to leave it or remove it?

Yes, it's winding mode in 1st position.

I do find the crown slightly tight after the 40 turns.
But why are you bother about to fully wind the watch?

Honestly, I do NOT practise in fully wind my watch.
Either I will shake the watch to let it move, adjust to the correct time and enjoy of wearing it.
Or just shake the watch for about 20 seconds and keep it, at the same time enjoy of looking and cleaning the watch.

There is NO rule of leave it or remove it the green sticker.
It's all up to individual preference
My 16610 SS Sub Date purchase in 2005 still has it green sticker on it backside.

This is me...and just my 2 cents

Cheerio,

[jazz_samz]

abt winding it, I wanted to check if the spring is faulty or not.. cos some watches if you OVER-WIND, it will damage the coil etc.. I don't do that daily...

[wolfeyes1974]

abt winding it, I wanted to check if the spring is faulty or not.. cos some watches if you OVER-WIND, it will damage the coil etc.. I don't do that daily...

try no to overwind everytime...the moment you face "resistance"..it's time to stop winding. and yes...you'll face resistance once it's fully wound...

as for stickers on the back...i remove them....cos Triton told me if u peel it off after a long time..there'll be a green line on yr back case....

cheers

james

[Taurus75]

Ask you all ah...

For 16610, when you release the crown to the 1st position, its in the winding mode right?
When you say wind it in accordance to recommendation here, 40 turns CW to "fully wind" the watch, do you feel any resistance once you pass 40, or does it stays the same kind of feel???

Anybody peal off the GREEN sticker on the back of the case? Is it more recommended to leave it or remove it?

There should be a slight resistance when the watch is fully wound. It is alright occasionally to go over the required no. of turns to fully wind the watch as there is an inherent clutch mechanism that prevents damage due to the continuous winding. However if the clutch mechanism is engage too often due to overwinding, this may potentially cause its premature wearing out. As for the hologram on the back of the Z series and earlier 16610, there is no general consensus on what to to do with them. Some prefer to leave it as it is as it is afterall a anti-counterfeit feature while some prefer to remove it since it leave a green patch if left untouched over long period of time. So personally, I will juz leave it on.

[jazz_samz]

By the way, is the price of a 16613 black dial, U-series at 6.8k reasonable? With box and paper....