Noob question

[riyute]

Any difference between a 10yr old sub and a 3yr old sub.
Assuming both is 16610.
Difference such as specs movement etc.
If the idea is to use as daily beater and not to flip.

[Oceanklassik]

A "10yr old sub" should be an 'F' series while a "3yr old sub" is a 'G' or 'V' series.

There is very little difference externally. The newer one comes with the engraved rehaut while the older model does not. The movement should be the same, ie 3135, for both.

[glay78]

Any difference between a 10yr old sub and a 3yr old sub.
Assuming both is 16610.
Difference such as specs movement etc.
If the idea is to use as daily beater and not to flip.

The difference are as replied by bro Oceanklassik, IMHO it is better to get a 10 year old one as a daily beater. Just get the necessary servicing done and it is as good as a 3 year old. At least you don't need to be so careful when wearing it.

[riyute]

Thanks bros here! Sharing all the valuable info.. Almost kena a "sharp knife"lol..
Appreciate it tons!

[Jubilee]

assuming both is 16610, 10yr old sub (ie 2003) maybe no engraved rehaut and the box is the old type wood with paper warranty
3yr old sub ie 2010 is with engravbed rehaut (ROLEXROLEXROLEX....) and the new design box with card warranty
10yr old should need a full servicing (if never done before since 2003) while 2010 no need servicing
price wise, i will say $5800 to $6000 for 2003 and $6500 to $6800 for 2010 (assuming all papers, box, accessories intact)

Note that full servicing will cost upwards of $900 if done at RSC - you might want to factor that cost in when making a decision between the two.

[zhleez]

Will be a very good buy if you can find a F-series and above selling at below $6k.

Thanks bros here! Sharing all the valuable info.. Almost kena a "sharp knife"lol..
Appreciate it tons!

[jhquek]

After 2008 all new subs are ceramic bezel right? Should not have 16610 unless NOS. Pricing for ceramic vs old bezel is diff also.

[cranthir]

what the diff between ceramic and non ceramic bezel?

[cranthir]

whats the diff between ceramic and non ceramic bezel?

[cranthir]

one is ceramic, the other is non-ceramic

I mean functionally whats the diff?

[jhquek]

The 16610s bezel inserts were aluminum and 116610s are ceramic "cerachrom" bezel.

Cerachrom is Rolex’s patented proprietary system for creating their own ceramic.
Suppose to be scratch resistance and will color not fade.
No more ghost effects of the old bezel.

[bensg]

whats the diff between ceramic and non ceramic bezel?

Other than the properties, the main issue is Price, the ceramic version is much more expensive to replace if needed.

[aprobis]

Ceramic is more scratch resistance while the old one is not...however like what jhquek has highlighted the finish is different so you may and may not like it. Nowadays all watches are moving to ceramic bezel liaoz..it is brittle though..meaning to say hard knock may crack den ho seh!

[rolexnow]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I think I cant start threads yet.

Am going to consider buying rolex from this forum as there are many guys selling and with good feedback.
But Is it common practice to pay small token down payments before seeing the watch? Even for reputable sellers here?
And what kind of action can I actually take to protect myself against fake watch sellers. Could I actually go to the police?
As sellers lately refuse to wait for RSC verification time, and instead bring to third party to authenticate.
Thanks!

[bensg]

I won't pay a single cent until i have decide and confirm want to deal. You can check with the seller before meeting up. If you want to pay him a little token for compensation his time and transportation in case you don't want to deal, think he won't mind too.
The most common practices to protect yourself are to buy from a good reliable seller and send the watch to RSC for verification before paying the money. After the payment if anything really goes wrong even you go to the police also will have a hard time and many hassles to get back your money.
You are the buyer paying the money so you can insist for RSC. If the seller can't wait or insist 3rd party. You can always go look for another seller willing to.

We can't start a thread but we can do a search. Other than what you want to know there are plenty of good information too.