Local AD and oversea AD

[kenn18]

Some watch buyers want the "AD" experience and peace of mind that what is bought is genuine and complete. Of course the watches may cost a bit more, as the AD has higher costs to operate than grey sellers. If buyers don't want the "buying experience" offered by the local ADs (not dissimilar to drinking coffee at Starbucks compared to kopitiam), then go for the best price the market has to offer.

BTW, for first time buyers from grey sellers, the booklets could be in languages other than English. These booklets (manuals, etc) can be exchanged to your preferred language at RSC without costs.

[satch]

i thought the discussion here is relating to perceived higher resale value of watches bought from local ADs vs overseas AD

[3131T]

ps. daytona - if it's possible to get daytona at list price, i am sure many fellow bro in the forum would be keen, then please share the lobang.

I'd be glad to share n I love sharing, but not openly over here as I think this will be very sensitive topic...

Btw, it was also share by another brother in the Daytona Sticky Thread recently...

Well, well, well...

Lets get back to topic as in why is it seems that local AD watch(selling, asking higher price, etc...) than to OS AD...

[jetfixation]

Hey guys!
First post here

I looked at the garage sales and see people selling their brand new Daytonas at around $14+K but still not many takers. I'm believe the local ADs sell at closer to $17+?
Isin't $14+K for a Black 116520 brand new with full papers from AD (albeit overseas) a relatively good deal?

[Splash]

I think this is the correct thread to ask my concern as well.

Current I am planning to get at 116613LN, the price I got from one of the commercial watch dealer in this forum is about 1.8-2k cheaper than AD(after some in house discount). But my dilemma is getting from commercial watch dealer, is the watch as genuine as from AD? I know it just me simply cannot overcome the hurdle. If I can get some assurance that this watch dealer is reputable (with many bros/sis) also buying from them and their stock is as genuine as ever. I will not hesitate and go down the week after next to buy from them (the are close next week). Just in time for my Christmas.

[jetfixation]

Welcome to the forum posting your maiden post here.!! :-)

It is a good deal, but that doesn't mean it will get sold very fast. It also depends on whether there are any buyers at this moment looking for a daytona. Yes it's popular, but that doesn't mean eveyone is going to buy it. It's not cheap as well for a watch (as with all rolex watches).

it also depends on the seller......maybe seller is holding the price very firm and not willign to entertain any negotiation. It also depends on whether the seller is reputable or new. Which is why the saying, buy the seller and not (only the watch).

Thanks for the warm welcome. The wealth of information here is mind boggling =)

Thanks too for the insight. I actually travel a lot and do understand that many countries that have good tax rebates that can lead to much better prices than local ADs.

Will be reading more so I can learn here. But overall it's very unlikely a overseas AD will sell fakes right? Or would I need to send it to the service centre after I return to have it checked?

[kenairs]

Thanks for the warm welcome. The wealth of information here is mind boggling =)

Thanks too for the insight. I actually travel a lot and do understand that many countries that have good tax rebates that can lead to much better prices than local ADs.

Will be reading more so I can learn here. But overall it's very unlikely a overseas AD will sell fakes right? Or would I need to send it to the service centre after I return to have it checked?

don't apprehend the local vs overseas. In sg, we deem a AD in Europe as overseas AD.
In Europe, they deem an AD in APAC as overseas AD.

Sounds simple? Don't really matter as the source is only one..

[Hyundai8818]

Good thing is that Rolex only comes from one factory
So in actual fact, there is no difference
Used to heard from some buyers when I try to sell a BNIB rolex
They asked if it is make in HK ????
I dunno to laugh or cry.......

[Markli]

Just have it verified by Rolex. Simple

I have a similar question.
What if you verify it and found out that it is fake?
Will rolex call the police? Will I get into trouble?

[pp_sng]

Also . can some one tell about the warranty. If we buy a genuine watch from fray market. how does the warranty factor cover.

Like..disadvantages buying from non AD vs AD..

[pp_sng]

thank for your inputs. So as long as the watch is genuine, the rolex service centre will consider the warranty based on the warranty card.
So, technically there are no disadvantages if you buy a genuine way from Grey market dealers.

[satch]

there's one burning question in my mind about grey dealers that i hope experienced folks here can help to provide some insights:

my understanding is that grey dealers typically get their stocks from ADs who need to meet sales quota and thus have to push stocks to grey dealers. however, it seems that grey dealers' stocks are mainly popular models which the ADs should not have any problems selling at all, and these are the same models that ADs say have a long waiting list. so if the ADs already have a steady demand for these popular models, and supply from rolex factory is limited, then there is really no need to sell to the grey dealers to push sales. assuming my first statement in this paragraph is somewhat valid, it seems that i'm missing something here.

[satch]

these gray dealers may be regular customers of the overseas ADs
eg they may be buyers for shops in their own countries
so they get good discounts from the overseas ADs + government tax rebates = can sell the bnib watches at lower prices than local ADs

i guess u may have misinterpreted my point... supposing you're the AD & u only have limited stocks of 1 or 2 daytona or DSSD per month, and there is a long waiting list of your VIP customers wanting to buy it at retail price. why would u still want to sell it to the grey dealer?

[bensg]

i see local private sellers mostly selling higher end popular and sport models. i also wondering where are all the not so popular or cheaper models go to? we seldom or don't see them in local grey market. if can get good discount and good price, a basic model like Airking or DJ is good buy for daily beater.

[hugon]

seems like many ppl are going for grey sellers since there's effectively no difference in the warrranty and the set, the only consideration is getting a fake which can be mitigated by a check at RSC