Redeemed a replica from pawn shop

[zedwiko]

So which pawn shop you redeemed the watch?

[FirstAugust]

Nowadays counterfeit so real ah? Scary leh.

[Ian Limm]

I had a quick read of this thread and have the following comments:-

1)why all the panic if you bought a Rolex from a pawn shop, pawn shops are licenced and is the same as any pre-own shop/ dealer . They are not "fly by night roadside stalls". with the receipt it will state the model and serial number of the watch.
If RSC say fake , you can always go back for a refund.Pawn shops are rich and will not risk their name, business and reputation over a fake Rolex.

2)people who operate pawn shops are not idiots, they know how to tell a fake from real.
they may overlooked some minor parts but not the entire watch and movement.
those guys will make a copy of the sellers NRIC , open the watch and check before they buy.
lets assume they mess up and bought a fake, they will report the seller to the police too.


3)todate, I have not come across a total fake watch that looks so real it can fool collectors. Fakes can only fool people who dont own a real rolex.
I have even examined the so called "swiss made movement" replicas and they are a far cry from the real Rollies.
We have discussed this in earlier threads where we listed many simple tests that anyone can use to verify if a watch is fake.

[Darkangel]

Nowadays counterfeit so real ah? Scary leh.

now even pawnshop dun know to see whether the watch is replica?

I would like to say that it's not true, while they are getting better but they can never reach to a point that no one can tell a difference due to the quality and the cost involved.

[Alexlow]

I would like to say that it's not true, while they are getting better but they can never reach to a point that no one can tell a difference due to the quality and the cost involved.

My experience is otherwise. I send a Cartier for authentication at a VERY reputable preowned shop. They open the watch checked for about 20mins told me that the watch is good. I had my doubts as the b&p that came with it looks abit off. So I told them my concern. They open up the watch again to have a more "in depth check" ended up with no conclusion. They didn't charge me of course but advice me to sent to Cartier. (if I were to gone with the 1st conclusion, I would have bought a fake then)
I send the watch to Cartier to check for service. An hour later they told me the watch is fake! It's so good that the only difference they can see is the color of the crown jewel is lighter, crown stem is unfinished and the deployant buckle close with a slight wider gap.
Luckily I haven't paid the seller and return it back to him.
While it is easier to replicate a Cartier as the movement can be bought, Rolex on the other hand is quite impossible to replicate as its Movement is in-house and they don't sell parts.

[Alexlow]

My point is they have reached a level that it is almost impossible to tell from the outside and that scares me.

[predaking]

No updates?

[Darkangel]

My experience is otherwise. I send a Cartier for authentication at a VERY reputable preowned shop. They open the watch checked for about 20mins told me that the watch is good. I had my doubts as the b&p that came with it looks abit off. So I told them my concern. They open up the watch again to have a more "in depth check" ended up with no conclusion. They didn't charge me of course but advice me to sent to Cartier. (if I were to gone with the 1st conclusion, I would have bought a fake then)
I send the watch to Cartier to check for service. An hour later they told me the watch is fake! It's so good that the only difference they can see is the color of the crown jewel is lighter, crown stem is unfinished and the deployant buckle close with a slight wider gap.
Luckily I haven't paid the seller and return it back to him.
While it is easier to replicate a Cartier as the movement can be bought, Rolex on the other hand is quite impossible to replicate as its Movement is in-house and they don't sell parts.

My point is they have reached a level that it is almost impossible to tell from the outside and that scares me.

Agreed on your point, it is not easy to tell unless on close scrutiny.

[steve mcqueen]

they can show you movement is real, what about case, dial, hands, crown and bracelet? My friend encounter 1803 fake gold case. The queen's crown chop was not clear.

[Rajan]

Now a days the counterfeiters are getting better and better. Therefore the buyers have to be careful when buying used watches. Without papers I recommend to check with the authorized dealers. It is better to lose couple odd hundred dollars instead of losing the entire investment.

[zedwiko]

Can fake the watch to so look and feel so real for sure can fake the certificates too...but has anyone here encounter such fake certificates for reputable brands like Rollies or AP?

[pegasi]

Can fake the watch to so look and feel so real for sure can fake the certificates too...but has anyone here encounter such fake certificates for reputable brands like Rollies or AP?

There are people selling warranty cards on the other forum...not for rolex and AP though.

[taxico]

people buy/sell rolex warranty papers and cards all the time, especially when during a watch fair/show. it's easier to fake paper work and cards than watch parts.

this has been going on for a long time.

[pegasi]

people buy/sell rolex warranty papers and cards all the time, especially when during a watch fair/show. it's easier to fake paper work and cards than watch parts.

this has been going on for a long time.

Can share with me during what kind of watch fair/show I can buy rolex warranty papers/cards? Blank or used one?

[pegasi]

Seems like TS has gone MIA?

By now he should have got the result of the authentication, so I guess an update from him is not too much to ask for after he screamed for help and got some advices from this forum?