Omega vs Rolex

[exxondus]

hmmmm the writer is correct... although Tudor is a subsidiary of Rolex, the market share it garnered is not and should not be consider as part of Rolex as the market targeted by the two are considered to be separate ones. Both brands are created and marketed for different targets.

It's the same for Toyota and Lexus... same company, but different targets so treated as separate entities...

If not the write add in Swatch and Omega, Rolex and Tudor is gonna lose big time then

Anyway just sharing what I learnt in marketing and strategic management classes. =) No flaming intended. Pure sharing! Do comment if I am wrong too!

PS : I will still buy a Rolex though! the brand name, tradition and prestige is something that Omega will take a long long time to catch up...

good point.

I was refering to him saying about omega vs rolex, BUT using a tudor in his article's picture, which I find just shows how 'much' he knows about rolex.

As like you mentioned, tudor and rolex should be considered as seperate entities, hence, me commenting that he is only half correct in a certain way. And also later my comment saying that I doubt his credibility as he should be using a rolex pic instead if he is commenting abt the brand (unless the writer thinks Tudor can be considered Rolex)

just my twisted thoughts, nothing to be serious about here

[newbie09]

good point.

I was refering to him saying about omega vs rolex, BUT using a tudor in his article's picture, which I find just shows how 'much' he knows about rolex.

As like you mentioned, tudor and rolex should be considered as seperate entities, hence, me commenting that he is only half correct in a certain way. And also later my comment saying that I doubt his credibility as he should be using a rolex pic instead if he is commenting abt the brand (unless the writer thinks Tudor can be considered Rolex)

just my twisted thoughts, nothing to be serious about here

Or the author dun even know that both Tudor n Rolex is different....

[taxico]

good point.

I was refering to him saying about omega vs rolex, BUT using a tudor in his article's picture, which I find just shows how 'much' he knows about rolex.

actually, i think the pictures were added by Today...

[commoner]

I am now wearing a relatively new omega, I have my rolex 6994 and DJ16200. The thing about rolex is : A Rolex is A Rolex is A Rolex, it is more than just a watch. Even if someone be able to wear a PP/AP or a tourbillon, a commoner will always recognise a Rolex,,, Omega isa good reliable watch, and under swatch, has been innovative, but at the moment cannot compare on equal grounds in terms of branding and recognition.

[teo]

Omega can never reach Rolex status. Resale value for Omega is close to no value.

[exxondus]

actually, i think the pictures were added by Today...

oh ic..thanks for finding that out.

we finally found some that doesnt recognise Rolex

[Watcha]

Omega went into China market early and is well established there.

Omega branding is stronger in China than other swiss brands.

Omega make good watches. Rolex, without saying.

Rolex is the most recognizable brand in the world, thus the value.

Without spare cash, I will choose Rolex.

[overcrash]

good point.

I was refering to him saying about omega vs rolex, BUT using a tudor in his article's picture, which I find just shows how 'much' he knows about rolex.

As like you mentioned, tudor and rolex should be considered as seperate entities, hence, me commenting that he is only half correct in a certain way. And also later my comment saying that I doubt his credibility as he should be using a rolex pic instead if he is commenting abt the brand (unless the writer thinks Tudor can be considered Rolex)

just my twisted thoughts, nothing to be serious about here

ye man! its all sharing in good spirit. =) which i think is the most important thing in a forum! =)

i am still quite new in watch collecting, so got quite a newbie question to ask here, whats the price difference between a tudor and a rolex since they are meant for different markets ?

i think the writer was in a hurry to hand in his article then just glad "any pic" to submit together! hahaha! was he thinking that no one will notice? haha

[overcrash]

this is nice! what's the damage man?

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[Frogmen]

Seem like Omega is now touted as a more desire watch for the Ah tiongs, especially the classic series.

[batamboy]

To each his own taste.. Omega wins over in terms of their most recent designs n sizes, Rolex wins by their movement. It depends which u looking at. Constellation 4 Ah-Tiongs only. Planet Ocean is a nice watch,with 600m n bigger size, with additional co-axial escapement that wins over Rolex. Of cos if u looking at resale, Omega not a high resale watch. But rolex gotta improve on its upcoming design n sizes. In US, Omega more popular than Rolex from what i heard.

[taxico]

To each his own taste.. Planet Ocean is a nice watch,with 600m n bigger size, with additional co-axial escapement that wins over Rolex.

But rolex gotta improve on its upcoming design n sizes.

In US, Omega more popular than Rolex from what i heard.

i apologize, but i do not mean to sound rude.

1. if you think a watch is judged by its WR and size, you are mistaken.

there is no need for rolex to go into a "deeper is better" contest. all that is required for a higher WR is a slightly thicker crystal and caseback. depth ratings is, thankfully, not rolex's main concern - anyone can get an OEM design firm to easily churn out a 2000M WR watch.

additionally, rolex watches are extremely over-engineered as it is, with the 300M WR sub usually going way past the 300M mark in pressure chambers (i do not have the digits on hand).

further, the "larger is better" movement will end sooner or later, hence the decision by rolex this year to announce that they are retaining their 36mm men's datejusts based on that trend.

2. if you think the daniel's escapement (omega co-axial) is better than a rolex movement, you are also mistaken.

there is no point touting a longer warranty (3 years) and longer servicing interval if the beat rate is reduced. the beat rate was originally 28.8vph but reduced due to inherent problems with the movement as a result of implementing the co-axial escapement.

slow(er) beat movements can go on for longer periods without a service compared to a high(er) beat movement. this is just how wear and tear works.

the co-axial movement is better than the ETA-based omega calibres of recent past due to the escapement and fine adjustment upgrade, but it is in no way "better" than a rolex movement UNLESS...

you mean it is BETTER DECORATED than a rolex movement.

3. i have no clue what you mean by rolex improving on their design and size. hopefully this is not "larger is better, deeper is better" because we have uboats and panerais around.

are they "better" than omega?

subs have remained at 40mm for many decades, and likely to remain at 40mm for a long time more.

the rolex oyster case was and still is, designed to repel water and dust. this design has stood the test of time.

granted, rolex does not make the best watches (whatever that means) in the world. their movements, while ugly, are designed to be easy to service, accurate, robust.

rolex is in the business of selling expensive watches, not oneupmanship. there is no need for them to adopt any one else's design philosophy.

any design evolution will come about slowly, and as a result of a very careful and thoughtful process.

as worth noting: while not the biggest, rolex R&D/patent applications are legendary. the DSSD is a good testimony to that. and lest we forget, the original automatic HEV was a rolex patent.

4. you should never use hearsays, because we will never know how many watches rolex sells every year. but what we do know is: it is almost certain that rolex will raise their prices regularly. it is also certain that people will continue to save up and buy a rolex.

when was the last time you heard someone "saving up" to buy an omega?

[taxico]

as i didn't mention this... i like some of omega's watches. not all, but some.

[exxondus]

ye man! its all sharing in good spirit. =) which i think is the most important thing in a forum! =)

i am still quite new in watch collecting, so got quite a newbie question to ask here, whats the price difference between a tudor and a rolex since they are meant for different markets ?

i think the writer was in a hurry to hand in his article then just glad "any pic" to submit together! hahaha! was he thinking that no one will notice? haha

heh, I also like watch collecting but mainly only pictures cos no money

not too sure of tudor prices but from what i noticed, preown ones are usually in the range of 2-5k. Untill recently, i was only interested in the much much older tudor subs, but that was because they were using the rolex sub cases (shhh and also because I cant afford a sub ).

However, somehow, the new monte Carlo from tudor looks good too dubed as the poor man's daytona, I think I read somewhere that it is gg to retail about 5k+? which is less than half of what a daytona is gg to retail.

[exxondus]

I like both, have both, and will continue to buy more of both

Have been drooling over this for some time, but biding my time for a good used piece to surface

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fwah nice, but confirm belly ex

Think time for me to start saving up for this Omega liaoz and push my plans for a Sinn watch further back yet again