How much does the lack of papers affect selling price ?

[absolutgary]

Ok guys . Need a little help here . Say i was offered the same watch .. Condition wise but .. One is with papers and the other without .. its a 2004/2005 model and both no more warranty. So whats a reasonable difference, more like what's the norm ? 200 to 300 ? thanks for any help rendered

[Darkangel]

Yes it does affect...ONLY IF warrenty is still valid. But in this case...nah it doesn't well the difference usually is nothing at all.

[absolutgary]

=) So if the shop offered me a few hundred bucks off i should take it ? ^^

[feudallordcult]

ask yourself this question: will u be flipping it in the future? from my personal experience, at least 300 & above.

[absolutgary]

might flip .. find it abit too bling in an uncle kinda way ^^ thanks .. thts wht i though also ... 300 sounds reasonable

[116520]

No difference to me...

if you plan to wear the watch, no difference to me since no more warranty...
if you plan to display the watch in a museum, paper & box will be nice...

[Darkangel]

might flip .. find it abit too bling in an uncle kinda way ^^ thanks .. thts wht i though also ... 300 sounds reasonable

No seriously...no diff at all once warrenty over.

Anyway which piece u want to get? TT DJ?

No difference to me...

if you plan to wear the watch, no difference to me since no more warranty...
if you plan to display the watch in a museum, paper & box will be nice...

Agreed

[Reborn]

If you plan to sell in the future

Ok guys . Need a little help here . Say i was offered the same watch .. Condition wise but .. One is with papers and the other without .. its a 2004/2005 model and both no more warranty. So whats a reasonable difference, more like what's the norm ? 200 to 300 ? thanks for any help rendered

Quite important ! And warranty validity is not the issue here, because many who want the papers see it as helping to complete the package. So whether papers are valid or not is not the key issue here. This is generally the sentiments of collectors all over the world. You can ask the same question on timezone to get a broader response.

I would say around SGD 500 apart. Personally I would not buy any modern rolex without papers. But that's just me.

Even if you do not think you will sell in the future, still better to have that piece of paper just in case.

[Oceanklassik]

This thread explains:

http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=6376

[Darkangel]

Quite important ! And warranty validity is not the issue here, because many who want the papers see it as helping to complete the package. So whether papers are valid or not is not the key issue here. This is generally the sentiments of collectors all over the world. You can ask the same question on timezone to get a broader response.

I would say around SGD 500 apart. Personally I would not buy any modern rolex without papers. But that's just me.

Even if you do not think you will sell in the future, still better to have that piece of paper just in case.

Ok..let's hold it. And not make him blur...

First I want him to answer my $1,000,000 question...what watch you intend to get?

This thread explains:

http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=6376

Nah...only reason for the price diff is that..it's a M series..and M series means within warrenty period. That explains the lower price

[Darkangel]

Ok this is personal preference,there are some collectors who die die want full set that means warrenty is a must. But that's just an "extra" because it's not valid already.

Realistically speaking...it's of no use even if it's inside IN THIS CASE. So it's up to you.

[Reborn]

Fair enough, I think you have addressed the key question

Ok..let's hold it. And not make him blur...

First I want him to answer my $1,000,000 question...what watch you intend to get?



Nah...only reason for the price diff is that..it's a M series..and M series means within warrenty period. That explains the lower price

I was speaking broadly.

[absolutgary]

i think i will make up my mind soon .. and when i get it .. will post pics soon =)

[seiko.citizen]

my take is this:
if you intend to keep, shouldnt matter if you dont mind.
if you intend to sell in future, papers is nice, it gives an element of "completeness"

for me, at the end of the day, i still want everything to be complete, and as such, i will always prefer papers over those without papers.

[116520]

Waiting... waiting....

i think i will make up my mind soon .. and when i get it .. will post pics soon =)