Disappointment...

[Reborn]

bro, we were talking about your original scenario

there are always going to be sellers or buyers who pull out of deal.

unethical? yes, if this buyer keeps pulling this kind of stunt. but depends on situation.

let me relate a recent case that happened 1 week ago, a buyer informs me that it is a good to go to purchase a Sub Date from my regular sales person. 2 days after reserving the watch, the buyer inform me saying that have to pull out of deal. the reason given was that the buyer required to keep money for family as one of the family member was undergoing medical treatment for a period of time and requires a big sum of cash.

would you call this kind of backing out unethical? even my regular sales person was concern for the buyer's family member.

which had nothing to do with a sick family member, but price difference...you appeared to be suggesting it is ok to pull out if one finds a better price after agreeing...

[Reborn]

we were discussing this scenario

let's say buyer agreed to buy from seller A today. but can only meet next monday. between today and next monday, another seller aka seller B advertise a similiar/same condition @ a lower price compared to seller A. buyer is only available to to meet seller B the following monday but before the schedule time of seller A. deal goes through, inform seller A saying deal no good to go.

of course seller A is disappointed. however, this is the fact of life of a seller. as mentioned, nothing is a done deal till money and goods exchanged hands. however, things can still go wrong after money and goods changed hands.

this is the scenario, let's tackle your original scenario first, before we discuss the new scenario.

[Vknighthawke]

Lots of Lowballers and insincere buyers moving here, just deal at your convenience so not much time wasted, if need to sell in a hurry then give to dealer, no hassle
Me from Frontal, you guys should see how we treat Pilots there:
Here me in Courteous Mood.. Think need to Return to my Frontal Form if encounter more Pilots...haha

[Vknighthawke]

there are always going to be sellers or buyers who pull out of deal.

unethical? yes, if this buyer keeps pulling this kind of stunt. but depends on situation.

let me relate a recent case that happened 1 week ago, a buyer informs me that it is a good to go to purchase a Sub Date from my regular sales person. 2 days after reserving the watch, the buyer inform me saying that have to pull out of deal. the reason given was that the buyer required to keep money for family as one of the family member was undergoing medical treatment for a period of time and requires a big sum of cash.

would you call this kind of backing out unethical? even my regular sales person was concern for the buyer's family member.

Me think this a STUPID REASON, he should have known LLLONG time ago that this family member need LLLONG term mediacl treatment before he reserved the sub.. Unless the Emergency happen the last 2 days of his reservation of the sub....He should go buy the Sub since he RESEVED IT or find another buyer for the sub....(Salesman are train to be Courteous even if they encounter MORONS)

[triton]

im not suggesting that it is ok. it is just that there is a possibility that a buyer can always come across a better pricing because another seller who has the same/similiar product as the first seller and the second seller does not want to be stuck with goods, hence sell it @ a lower price in hope of sellling the watch and making less profit.

you would have noticed this when there was an influx of sub date sellers and explorer II sellers. so if you were a buyer and there is another seller selling a watch @ a lower price, you will still buy @ a higher price? if you do, then you are a top notch buyer who is willing tol pay more.

which had nothing to do with a sick family member, but price difference...you appeared to be suggesting it is ok to pull out if one finds a better price after agreeing...

[triton]

let me elaborate a little, this person's father underwent chemo and was given an all clear for several years. out of the blue, the cancer cells came back. so if you were the buyer facing this scenario, what would you do? pay for the sub date? if you do, you are a top notch buyer.

Me think this a STUPID REASON, he should have known LLLONG time ago that this family member need LLLONG term mediacl treatment before he reserved the sub.. Unless the Emergency happen the last 2 days of his reservation of the sub....He should go buy the Sub since he RESEVED IT or find another buyer for the sub....(Salesman are train to be Courteous even if they encounter MORONS)

[triton]

a seller will encounter good and bad buyers. that is why there is a trade feedback, but this may or may not help a seller to isolate who the bad buyers are. when a buyer backs off a deal, there are many excuses that can be given. it is whether the seller accepts those reasons or not.

there will also be low ball offers because the buyer wants to see how low sellers willing to go. it is part of a trading process. it happens not just in watch industry, it happens in other industries also.

in the industry that im working in, there is such buyers also. what to do? i give quote liao, last min back off. also got low ball offers. what to do? if i not willing to accept such things, i will have already switch jobs already. it is a challenge, as such, as a seller i priced the items i want to sell reasonable. if the buyer backs off, then bo bian. if i dont handle low ball offers, i might not even get a sale. i accept such things, it is part of a potential transaction process.

[ejaan]

Me think this a STUPID REASON, he should have known LLLONG time ago that this family member need LLLONG term mediacl treatment before he reserved the sub.. Unless the Emergency happen the last 2 days of his reservation of the sub....He should go buy the Sub since he RESEVED IT or find another buyer for the sub....(Salesman are train to be Courteous even if they encounter MORONS)

Please...do not resort to name calling if you do not know the whole story. Until this happens to you, and I pray that it never will, you'll never be able to appreciate it. The watch is a "want". Taking care of the welfare of a family member, especially during an emergency, is a "need". So if you have to choose between the 2, which path would you take. I'd say "Needs" always overrides "Wants".

[lcwleslie]

Fake Post, Fake Seller, Fake Watches, Fake Price.... Beware~

Now I know why you wanted to order 10pcs from the seller....

[Oceanklassik]

I saw a post selling his watch at very attractive price, but when pm him, he replied that watch was on hold and sold.
Next day I saw his new post selling the same watch, and sold again!!
Then i clicked on his old posts, which he was asking other REAL sellers for discount!!!!


SO DID HE REALLY HAS THE WATCHES???
FAKE POST, FAKE WATCHES, FAKE PRICE...
OR JUST TRYING TO PULL DOWN THE SELLING PRICE??

BEST part is he didnt has any trade feedback after selling good watch at good price.....

Errr..... who ar?

[lcwleslie]

Please...do not resort to name calling if you do not know the whole story. Until this happens to you, and I pray that it never will, you'll never be able to appreciate it.

Bro, your words are so sharp....becareful...something called karma...

[Ender]

I saw a post selling his watch at very attractive price, but when pm him, he replied that watch was on hold and sold.
Next day I saw his new post selling the same watch, and sold again!!
Then i clicked on his old posts, which he was asking other REAL sellers for discount!!!!
SO DID HE REALLY HAS THE WATCHES???
FAKE POST, FAKE WATCHES, FAKE PRICE...
OR JUST TRYING TO PULL DOWN THE SELLING PRICE??
BEST part is he didnt has any trade feedback after selling good watch at good price.....

probably trying to pull down price, very c'mon tactic...

[lcwleslie]

let me elaborate a little, this person's father underwent chemo and was given an all clear for several years. out of the blue, the cancer cells came back. so if you were the buyer facing this scenario, what would you do? pay for the sub date? if you do, you are a top notch buyer.

Bro, did u try to sell him a vintage sub date or wat?

I would genuinely believe the "supposed" buyer's excuse (in your scenario), since I cannot think of another human being cursing his own father that way...just to back out from a deal.

[lcwleslie]

probably trying to pull down price, very c'mon tactic...

No wonder....I saw a lot SD being sold recently....haha.

So that guy is doing a good deed for the fellow buyers here ....not for the seller though...Poor seller under pressure to lower his asking price ....In the end, he may choose to sell to preown shop!

So many lao jio moderators...can you do something?

In the long run, no one benefits except Preown shops.

[ejaan]

Bro, your words are so sharp....becareful...something called karma...

Oh don't worry, it had happened to me. That is why I'm able to appreciate the situation. As you'd notice, I said that "I pray that it never will" happen to... And you consider these sharp words while name calling is not?