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I am hoping that ROLEX will organise some kinda' event/workshop for the public to get to know about their watches.
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The last picture of the 3135 clone really look disturbingly close....Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak
Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen
Quoted from Sir Winston ChurchillComment
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Interesting that now we have people doubting the authentication done by RSC. I don't want to be rude but I think you should only buy brand new from AD. Why pay so much money for a preowned plus $107 and still feel disturbed?Watches are like potato chips - You never stop at one
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please tell me that this is a joke. when i saw that 3135 clone i almost pissed my pants. very very scary. way too similar to the real thing! replicas level up already we all also need to faster level up our verification skills!Comment
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Originally posted by tanwill View PostThis is the closest 3135 clone i have ever seen :
don't be fooled !!!
there are people who take photos of real movements and post them on the net to say this is the latest fake movement just to create panic and confusion.
even the $500 to $800 swiss movements I seen dont come close to this.
If anyone know where I can pay a few hundred dollars for a movement that looks like that, let me know!
I will only be convinced if I am actually able to purchase a fake movement that looks like the above!My 18K Gold Day Date "President" Collection:
1) WG DIA 18239
2) YG DIA 18238
3) WG 18239
4) YG 18238
5) YG 18248G Bark
6) WG DIA 18039
7) WG 18039
8) YG 18038
9) Tridor DIA 18039B
10) YG DIA 18078 Bark
11) RG 1803 (Mint V.Rare)
12) WG 1803
13) YG 1803
50th Anniversary Collection:
1)GMT II 116718 18K
2)Sub 16610LV Mk1 x 4pcs ( 3F + 1 Y!)
Others
1)Daytona RG 116505 18K
2)D15037 14k
3)DJ16238 18KComment
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Agree. The clone on the second pic is as good as some of the Swiss fake movements. This one if is a clone then really worth buying.
From what I know, if you are not skilled to tell, go buy from AD. For those into vintage, they don't need RSC cos they can tell real and fake. For those need to depend on RSC to buy vintage, my advice is don't bother...stick to modern. When comes to vintage RSC not much better than some long time collector in knowledge. That's why they turn away vintages so often.
Originally posted by Ian Limm View PostComment
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In the 3135 clone, you'll still need to turn the crown counter clockwise to advance the timing unlike the real 3135. Relax, i have both original and 'BEST SWISS CLONE' submariner and there are still a lot of differences that cannot be covered by $350 Swiss Clone whether it's visually or when you play with the thing.
Cheers!!!Comment
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Nope, I can't. Did not take pic. A google search + reference site checks show that the dial for that particular model did not have that particular marking. IIRC correctly, it was a situation where the dial came with a 'BA' marking when it should be a 'ABC' marking.Originally posted by triton View Post"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence,
three times is enemy action and
over 600 is clearly the work of an ancient Sumerian demon or some sh*t."Comment
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I strongly agree... Whenever I am tempted by vintage rollies, I will recall what an established grey dealer told me... he was offered a vintage rollie for less than 15% of the going rate. The seller told him that the reason it was so cheap was because it was a made in italy fake. The dealer looked left, looked right, and just cld not tell it as a fake. He activated his rolex kakis and they were also stumped, even when comparing the real ones in their collection with the fake. At that time, I jokingly told him that another possibility was that his kakis' rollies were also fake ... hahahahOriginally posted by KuchingKu View Post
Since my wallet is not deep enough and I am not diligent enough, I knew that I had to give up on vintage rollies...sigh..."Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence,
three times is enemy action and
over 600 is clearly the work of an ancient Sumerian demon or some sh*t."Comment
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Wow...even an well-established grey dealer cannot tell the differences??
Bro Ender..can PM me the dealer details pls...will keep a healthy distance from his shop in the future...Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak
Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen
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the 3rd pic was taken fm :
hxtp://www.replicagod.com
Comparing the 1st and 2nd pic.
The give-away is the balance bridge.
Ian Limm may be right. Some site do use gen movt to fool buyer.
For the dials.............its soooooo hard to gauge.
These days the rep are soooooo close.
Only way is to remove them from the movt and check the "back" engraving.
In my opinion, RSC may not be doing these check when verification.
Only when you send for service that "all" these issue start to pop.
My experience (my opinion only, dont fame me), JW does a better check.
Just my 2 cents.Comment
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Remember to ask for written "FULL refund" in receipt when fail in final authanic; when buy 2nd hand from used dealer.
There have been known cases of dispute !!
You have been warned !Comment
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Rolex has got rep problem but its movement will tells them apart.
BUT i think Panerai , Sinn and Tag got MORE serious issue on rep than Rolex !!Comment
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Found some more pic of 3135 clone !
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i cannot tell what's wrong and the differences, but it just looks very badly made to me. bad decorations, poor engraving. but still, quite a good knock off.Comment
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