oct 14th 2010: day date RSC overhaul estimate - $980... (!)

[caeden]

I agree....and customer service is better too.

[Heng Tin Hong]

Just sent my DayDate for complete overhaul & was charge $980.

The lady told me that next year the servicing price will follow Geneva Pricing.

But not sure is it world wide.

I earn money the hard way,but compare Rolex service and other SO CALL top brand is much more cheaper.

I ever own a Lange,i sent to sincere to recoat the crystal cause the coating peeling off.

It took 7 month to come back.

Guess how much i pay for the coating(Call me stupid or Nut)

COST IS $2,664 FOR THE COATING.

[taxico]

Just sent my DayDate for complete overhaul & was charge $980.

The lady told me that next year the servicing price will follow Geneva Pricing.

But not sure is it world wide.

I earn money the hard way,but compare Rolex service and other SO CALL top brand is much more cheaper.

I ever own a Lange,i sent to sincere to recoat the crystal cause the coating peeling off.

It took 7 month to come back.

Guess how much i pay for the coating(Call me stupid or Nut)

COST IS $2,664 FOR THE COATING.

oxymoron (please check what it means before thinking i called you names).

[Heng Tin Hong]

Please enlighten me,bro Taxico.

Thank you.

[Oceanklassik]

Contradiction, my friend.

[Heng Tin Hong]

Thank you,Bro Oceanklassik.

[minimerc]

Is it a RSC SOP to overhaul each and every watch brought in for servicing?

If this is the case, it will be expensive.

folks, i'm nwebies here. heres what i learnt from a trained rolex technicianfor older and vintage watches, it may be necessary to overhaul the watch. a watch does > 20k vibrations per hour, > many billions vibrations per year. A wore out part can easily put stress on neighbouring components which eventually leads to "complete breakdown" of whole mechanism... thats why old watches lose their accuracy and "power reserve" after many years unless major overhaul is done. those simple oiling servicing package will only add more damage to the vintage watch in long run.

imagine topping up engine oil without flushing out the old oil out, all the micro dust and metal fillings will slowly grind away the delicate parts (imagine the many billions vibrations a watch does per year)

[Archie42]

That price is simply REDICULOUS!

Rolex is charging a big premium that you will NEVER NEVER NEVER get back!

Rolex Singapore is also a bit dishonest.... A good friend of mine sent in a Daytona for service (mainly because he wanted Rolex papers to say all is perfect and original). The techs at Rolex Sing - said some of the rare parts were damaged. This is complete BS! My friend has 20 x magnification photos to prove otherwise! I am not sure exactly which parts but I think it related to the BEZEL! (certain Rolex bezels are worth alot more than other Rolex daytona bezels)!
They simply wanted to take out the valuable parts and put in the not so valuable parts! - and they of course sell the other parts out the back door!

Personally Rolex Singapore SUCKS!

[Oceanklassik]

That price is simply REDICULOUS!

Rolex is charging a big premium that you will NEVER NEVER NEVER get back!

Rolex Singapore is also a bit dishonest.... A good friend of mine sent in a Daytona for service (mainly because he wanted Rolex papers to say all is perfect and original). The techs at Rolex Sing - said some of the rare parts were damaged. This is complete BS! My friend has 20 x magnification photos to prove otherwise! I am not sure exactly which parts but I think it related to the BEZEL! (certain Rolex bezels are worth alot more than other Rolex daytona bezels)!
They simply wanted to take out the valuable parts and put in the not so valuable parts! - and they of course sell the other parts out the back door!

Personally Rolex Singapore SUCKS!

I think you have to be wary of what you have posted. Such unverified accusations can lead you to unnecessary legal actions.

[Archie42]

PLEASE IGNORE STUPID COMMENTS - my 13year old son's friend thought it would be cool to cause trouble!!!!

Agreed Rolex is expensive BUT THEY ARE 100% HONEST!

That price is simply REDICULOUS!

Rolex is charging a big premium that you will NEVER NEVER NEVER get back!

Rolex Singapore is also a bit dishonest.... A good friend of mine sent in a Daytona for service (mainly because he wanted Rolex papers to say all is perfect and original). The techs at Rolex Sing - said some of the rare parts were damaged. This is complete BS! My friend has 20 x magnification photos to prove otherwise! I am not sure exactly which parts but I think it related to the BEZEL! (certain Rolex bezels are worth alot more than other Rolex daytona bezels)!
They simply wanted to take out the valuable parts and put in the not so valuable parts! - and they of course sell the other parts out the back door!

Personally Rolex Singapore SUCKS!

[Oceanklassik]

Noted. Tx.

[taxico]

...i learnt from a trained rolex technicianfor older and vintage watches, it may be necessary to overhaul the watch.

a watch does > 20k vibrations per hour, > many billions vibrations per year. A wore out part can easily put stress on neighbouring components which eventually leads to "complete breakdown" of whole mechanism... thats why old watches lose their accuracy and "power reserve" after many years unless major overhaul is done.

those simple oiling servicing package will only add more damage to the vintage watch in long run.

imagine topping up engine oil without flushing out the old oil out, all the micro dust and metal fillings will slowly grind away the delicate parts (imagine the many billions vibrations a watch does per year)

i don't fully agree with your watch maker. it is true that watches require a full service from time to time. i do not dispute that watches CAN and DO wear out other parts from a lack of service.

however, a watch with a low beat rate or low usage rate will probably not benefit as much from a service, as when compared to a watch with a high beat or a watch that is in use constantly.

as a corollary, if both are worn daily, a low beat 1570 can go on longer without a service when compared to a high beat 3035. in the same vein, worn daily without a service: a rolex (valjoux) 72/72x/722 will out last a 4030, and a rolex 4030 will out last a zenith 400 (same base calibre).

as such, especially when not regularly used, SOME watches (read my last line below) will benefit from a simple oil and adjust job (and gasket change) - tearing down such a watch is not always entirely necessary, and more harm could arise from it (ie, wear on "expendable" parts like the hands and tube, or god forbid, the pinion).

others feel that simply opening the case subjects the movement to external moisture and dust, which may in turn, cause more damage than internally caused grit.

therefore, i stick to the "if it ain't broke, don't touch it adage" - if you know your watch, you'll know when it's time to service it.

examples can be found in unsusual behavior, sounds or feedback from the watch when you handle it. if you don't know your watch, you probably aren't wearing it oftn enough.

your engine oil change example, although useful and apt, is too simplistic because the distance/service sticker is only a recommendation of how regularly an owner should change the oil (and other parts).

the true indicator depends on how hard/little the engine has been used. if you drive a toyota hard, you will need to change oil sooner than the indicated mileage. if you drive a porsche gently, you can go for longer than indicated.

service mileage is only a manufacturer recommendation and not a rule. the same applies to mechanical watches.

if the engine has been idle for a long... long time... an oil change is needed to get rid of old oil that has sat at the bottom near the sump for far too long - it is now useless as an engine lubricant due to (a lack of) coverage a change in viscuosity.

therefore an adage recommends that we shake or wind our unworn watch(es) once every 2 or so weeks - the same frequency applies to starting up an engine of an undriven car. such watches, IMO, benefit most from a COA job.

[minimerc]

i don't fully agree with your watch maker. it is true that watches require a full service from time to time. i do not dispute that watches CAN and DO wear out other parts from a lack of service.

however, a watch with a low beat rate or low usage rate will probably not benefit as much from a service, as when compared to a watch with a high beat or a watch that is in use constantly.

as a corollary, if both are worn daily, a low beat 1570 can go on longer without a service when compared to a high beat 3035. in the same vein, worn daily without a service: a rolex (valjoux) 72/72x/722 will out last a 4030, and a rolex 4030 will out last a zenith 400 (same base calibre).

as such, especially when not regularly used, SOME watches (read my last line below) will benefit from a simple oil and adjust job (and gasket change) - tearing down such a watch is not always entirely necessary, and more harm could arise from it (ie, wear on "expendable" parts like the hands and tube, or god forbid, the pinion).

others feel that simply opening the case subjects the movement to external moisture and dust, which may in turn, cause more damage than internally caused grit.

therefore, i stick to the "if it ain't broke, don't touch it adage" - if you know your watch, you'll know when it's time to service it.

examples can be found in unsusual behavior, sounds or feedback from the watch when you handle it. if you don't know your watch, you probably aren't wearing it oftn enough.

your engine oil change example, although useful and apt, is too simplistic because the distance/service sticker is only a recommendation of how regularly an owner should change the oil (and other parts).

the true indicator depends on how hard/little the engine has been used. if you drive a toyota hard, you will need to change oil sooner than the indicated mileage. if you drive a porsche gently, you can go for longer than indicated.

service mileage is only a manufacturer recommendation and not a rule. the same applies to mechanical watches.

if the engine has been idle for a long... long time... an oil change is needed to get rid of old oil that has sat at the bottom near the sump for far too long - it is now useless as an engine lubricant due to (a lack of) coverage a change in viscuosity.

therefore an adage recommends that we shake or wind our unworn watch(es) once every 2 or so weeks - the same frequency applies to starting up an engine of an undriven car. such watches, IMO, benefit most from a COA job.

thanks bro. always good to learn something new everyday from all the masters here.

[KuchingKu]

I am also fed up with RSC. As mentioned by other, you simply can't get a vintage part repaired or changed without them insisting you change almost everything and polish the watch. Worst, if they detect any signs of polishing on the areas near the lugs, they won't service saying the serial numbers have been tempered....they don't even open the watch and check all the parts inside to see if it's original or not!

So, if you own a 40 year old vintage that has some wear (esp at the serial num area), they won't service.

All said, a few rolex trained technician at next door lucky plaza can do the same simple servicing at less than half the cost....minus all the threats and non-commitment of any mishap to your vintage.