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    Nicholas Hacko the Watchmaker's Blog

    http://nickhacko.blogspot.com/2009/0...ble-rolex.html

    Friday, May 8, 2009

    [Q]: Since you have been around a lot of watches and worked on a lot and have pretty good opinion, would like to ask you a question: which mechanical watch out there do you believe is the most rugged and reliable Rolex watch made? Able to survive the harshest environments and sports?

    Very good question! In real life, most watch owners or owners-to-be rarely take time to do their research BEFORE parting with money. In most cases, they buy a particular watch based on 1/brand name 2/price 3/input received from salesman. Hardly a good reason to buy a tool watch ! Secondly, if you apply my "watchmakers reasoning" you should have no difficulties picking up the winner when considering other watch brands or watches for other specific purposes. The third reason: this is darn flattering so I couldn't resist it.

    Assuming we are talking here Rolex watches, I am approaching this dilemma in the following fashion:

    1. ruggedness and durability: cross off your list all solid precious metal and gold/steel models. Only steel models are made / built to last;

    2. waterproofness: although 100m WR is a fairly good rating - especially in the case of Rolex watches- cross off all the watches rated to less than 300m;

    3. functionality and reliability: in this case, less it better. Number of moving parts is indirectly proportional to reliability. Say goodbye to all Chrono, GMT and date models.

    Once you have applied the above principles to the Rolex table of watches, you are left with one model only - a finely contoured, robust, reliable and excellent value-for-money Submariner 14060M. A true Rolex classic of timeless design. And please don't be fooled with 'non chronometer' rating. If properly adjusted and serviced on regular basis, 14060M is very much capable of performing within chronometer specifications.

    The only negative is the under-engineered bracelet with flimsy end-pieces and outdated clasp. I find this bracelet of only ordinary-to-moderate quality; neither good nor bad therefore barely adequate to be associated with this fine Submariner.

    [Q]: I would almost think the Explorer 1 would fall into that category?

    Good thinking - however with it's rotating bezel, larger size case, superior water resistance and recognizable sporty look the 14060 is hands-down winner.

    [Q]: Does the date feature really make it a less rugged watch than one without the date?

    Yes, the Explorer 1 and Submariner 14060M use the same movement calibre BUT - and this is a BIG BUT - the case of Submariner is 300m water resistant.

    Re. Date or no date: in all fairness, the date function on Submariner Ref. 16610 is extremely reliable, however the 14060 is thinner and has no Cyclop so lower profile is an added bonus.

    Now, if I there is such a thing as manual wind version of 14060 then I would go for that one. This would be the ultimate sports Rolex : thin, waterproof and with even less parts. The auto section is fairly fragile unit, prone to excessive wear and shock damage.
    “Watches, no matter how much they cost, are better at telling time than making a person happy.” - Thomas J. Stanley

  • #2
    Which piece is good then ?

    Anyway

    Exploer 1
    14060M
    16610

    all I have

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    • #3
      IMO, I don't think manual wind is more reliable and accurate. Visible wear on the crown, stem etc.....

      Although I agree that date function increase parts count but I don't think it is significant enough to affect the reliability of the watch.....

      GMT, Chrono had relatively much more parts count.

      Also mechanical watch shouldn't be worn for violent sports, even golf. Diving seems ok as there is less shock to the watch.

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      • #4
        Wow. I won't wear my Rolex for golf. Last time I wore my tag for range, I have to send it for major servicing.

        Desired horologes ...

        - IWC Portuguese Automatic
        - GMT II
        - GMT IIc TT
        - Reverso Squadra Hometime (7008620)/ Reverso Squadra
        - Master Eight Days (1608420)
        - U1
        - IWC Aquatimer

        An exquisite timepiece, brings timeless memories and precious moments...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jSkywalker View Post
          IMO, I don't think manual wind is more reliable and accurate. Visible wear on the crown, stem etc.....

          Although I agree that date function increase parts count but I don't think it is significant enough to affect the reliability of the watch.....

          GMT, Chrono had relatively much more parts count.

          Also mechanical watch shouldn't be worn for violent sports, even golf. Diving seems ok as there is less shock to the watch.
          Not if you are like me, like to whack the watch carelessly on the corals and my diving gear
          I dont need another watch, I dont need another watch, I dont need another watch, I dont need another watch.........

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jSkywalker View Post
            IMO, I don't think manual wind is more reliable and accurate. Visible wear on the crown, stem etc.....

            Although I agree that date function increase parts count but I don't think it is significant enough to affect the reliability of the watch.....

            GMT, Chrono had relatively much more parts count.

            Also mechanical watch shouldn't be worn for violent sports, even golf. Diving seems ok as there is less shock to the watch.
            what about the 6694 oyster dates that go on and on? how does that winding system compare with the reliability of the ball-bearingless rolex rotor?

            the original author did not mention anything about a manually wound watch being more accurate (although they can indeed be adjusted to have very little variance if consistently wound).

            the rolex crown and stem has always been designed to be a replaceable part... however the crown will not wear out as easily as we'd like to think, and with proper winding discipline, the stem will not break (ie, take the watch off before winding, and wind it at the same time every day, and know the number of turns required).

            i am unsure what you mean when you say the GMT/Chrono has a higher part count... it is generally accepted that the less parts a movement has, the less problematic it is.

            the date function can (and does) malfunction and is the portion of the movement that requires the most effort/energy (at 12mn).

            i've worn my rolex watch for scuba diving and bashed them on the dive boat when gearing up/climbing on board... never had a problem. some dive masters/instructors wear a sub/SD and all have no problems (except the need to regularly test it at the local dive shop's dive watch pressure chamber).

            i've also worn a rolex for golfing on driving ranges and courses, never a problem. many other golfing kakis i know/see also wear rolex watches and also have no problems with it.

            in fact, problems occur when the index stud of a "lesser" movement (eg, ETA ebauche/base) slips or when the balance spring is incorrectly positioned due to golfing activities.

            however with a free sprung balance, kif/paraflex shock deflector and microstella adjustment system, i think there is very little likelihood of a rolex suffering a malfunction from "vigorous activities"...

            finally, most people would probably prefer a broken/stuck movement over a flooded watch... so i recommend golfing with a rolex over scuba diving with a rolex!

            (no offense meant, just my point of view...)
            “Watches, no matter how much they cost, are better at telling time than making a person happy.” - Thomas J. Stanley

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            • #7
              I used to visit the driving range after work with my Rolex. It's a brand new piece. One day, after a few months, I realised a circular scratch on watch face, the hour hand some how scratched the face of the watch.

              I brought it back to RSC, they changed all hands and the face. Luckily under warranty, no charge but need to wait for about a week to get it done.

              This is fact a my 2nd incident.

              The first was a Omega Speedmaster, I also wear this for golfing. The rotor winding mechanism some how got damaged and couldn't keep the watch in wind.

              Thereafter, I always leave my watch in my pocket.....

              Golfing seems to shorten the life of mechanical watches.

              All my automatic watches will not be on my wrist when I'm golfing....

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