Sub ND 14060M - COSC vs non-COSC

[skyline]

13 links is standard.

If you're after ND because you think its cheaper ... you can get older tritium-dial Sub 16610 with date (&COSC cert) for as little as $4.6k ... that's only a bit more.

wa..tat a better idea..
but wre can i look ard for ths T-dial sub-date?
maybe u can pm me the shop/add if u have any recommend..
thankx alot.

[taxico]

buy one in the best physical condition possible.

banged up ones may be cheap, but are not always worth getting, even if they are cheaper.

replacement parts are not cheap, and polished cases reduce its overall value.

i would rather buy a 10 year old sub that was rarely worn than a 5 year old that has been abused...

if you like a 14060/M, get it. get what speaks to you (unless you're a collector!).

i used to think i couldn't wear a watch without date, and bought a 16610 sub date.

however as i've always liked the designs of the classic 5513 sub, my wife got me a 14060M replacement...

might also be the fact that i kept going into the AD to try on the 14060s!

[taxico]

IIRC...

14060 ran from 1989-1999 on the 3030.

the 3130 replaced the 3030 in the air king, explorer and sub, and the model numbers were changed to reflect this.

improvements included better rotor winding efficiency, a full bridge (instead of a balance cock) and the classic breguet overcoil.

the 14060M ran from 2000 (1999?) to 2007, before being replaced by chronometer certified versions (same model).

tritium lovers will enjoy the 14060 over the 14060M. both movements will last a long time.

my dad still wears his super duper old 1601 datejust, and RSC services and warrants its 1570 movement without problems.

however tritium parts may be difficult or impossible to replace down the road, so collectors would have kept pearls, dials and hands for a rainy day.

less fussy wearers like me will not mind whether they are tritium or SL, original or replacement.

finally, the general consensus (before 2007) has always been that subs/airkings were COSC-grade rolexes (they share the exact same movement with the explorer) even though they are not certified, and are terrific value for money.

[triton]

14060 or 14060M

now i got poisoned by 14060(M) all thanks to someone in this forum. was thinking about it in first half of the year but then lost interest.

i have been contemplating either model.

14060 - all thanks to all forum members who are into vintage watches.
14060M - religion because i usually get BNIB.

so just want to hear forum members' opinion and why.

[exxondus]

I actally prefer less wordings on the dial so voted for the older model.

but I may be wrong cos the 14060M also have those 2 liner dials?

[dilutedmagnetics]

I actally prefer less wordings on the dial so voted for the older model.

but I may be wrong cos the 14060M also have those 2 liner dials?

I think so, but non-COSC.

[exxondus]

I think so, but non-COSC.

thanks for highlighting. This is also the thing that made me wonder.

Is there a reason why rolex later changed their minds and decided to get their 14060 movements certified?

is the 14060 non COSC as accurate as the 14060M with COSC

[zidaneong]

thanks for highlighting. This is also the thing that made me wonder.

Is there a reason why rolex later changed their minds and decided to get their 14060 movements certified?

is the 14060 non COSC as accurate as the 14060M with COSC

But heard that it is about the same as the diff is very slight when Rolex decided to grant cosc to 14060M back in 2007. Might be just a gimmick from Rolex though, that's what i heard. Pros, please verfiy, thanks.

[commoner]

not really into vintage unless truly unique, which in this case 14060 is not really "limited" in that sense.

2 lines/4 lines..... its a Rolex....... for me it would be nice to be BNIB

[dilutedmagnetics]

thanks for highlighting. This is also the thing that made me wonder.

Is there a reason why rolex later changed their minds and decided to get their 14060 movements certified?

is the 14060 non COSC as accurate as the 14060M with COSC

Read from TRF that the general consensus is... no big diff. The 14060 non COSC movement is just as good as the 14060M with COSC.

But I lazy to hunt liao, so just go to AD and buy whatever model of 14060 they got in stock.

[KuchingKu]

No diff lah. Rolex movement are robust. Cosc does not make it more robust. More words on the dial.

14060 can hardly be classified as vintage.

Get the 5513 lah. The vintage dome is well worth it already.

If bnib, then only 14060m. But I would rather get 16570 for a little more and another hand.

[exxondus]

No diff lah. Rolex movement are robust. Cosc does not make it more robust. More words on the dial.

14060 can hardly be classified as vintage.

Get the 5513 lah. The vintage dome is well worth it already.

If bnib, then only 14060m. But I would rather get 16570 for a little more and another hand.

u marketing your 5513 ah

Read from TRF that the general consensus is... no big diff. The 14060 non COSC movement is just as good as the 14060M with COSC.

But I lazy to hunt liao, so just go to AD and buy whatever model of 14060 they got in stock.

Ya, rem read abt this some where else as-well

hope you are enjoying your Sub ND

[KuchingKu]

u marketing your 5513 ah



Ya, rem read abt this some where else as-well

hope you are enjoying your Sub ND

No lah. That one already holding for someone. I had both 14060 and few 5513. They are so different.

[commoner]

one of the reasons i like 14060m (my next target) is the classical timeless look. simple and elegant. no date, so no need to adjust date at all.

can be a dress/sport/casual watch,,,,,,,,,a watch for all occasionsand still presentable,,,,,,,,,

it will be definitely my next target,,,,,,,,,,

[Rolesor]

If you look at the Breitling Brochure, they made the claim to be the first company to have ALL their watches COSC certified. Maybe Rolex du lan because even though they are the biggest COSC customer but yet not 100% due to the 14060