Vintage Explorer I

[Taurus75]

I think what he was referring to was the 14270 or the 114270, since he mentioned brand new in one of his posts. 1016 no have any brand new ones mah

My bad, I think I was too focused on the pic that TS posted and got engrossed in talking abt the 1016 . Ya bro, TS should be referring to the 114270 since he talked abt a brand new piece.

Aren't the framing of the 114270 white gold? I was told they are.

I can't be 100% sure if the hour markers In Explorer are framed in steel or white gold but passion had 2 pieces recently and they described both as steel framed hour markers. But I'm pretty sure the Sub and SD uses the white gold.

$4.8k can get a 1016 - where?

If 4.8k not only good price, it's lelong...lelong...

Cheerio,

Agreed with you on this.. 4.8K seemed like a steal and thats precisely why I mentioned that if it comes with box/papers for 1.2K more (as TS had mentioned but did not specified what kind of papers, whether it is service papers or original warranty paper), then its a fantastic buy for lovers of vintage pieces. Monster Time has a piece of 1016 and it is asking for 8.8K with only service papers. So I think it is quite clear now that I think TS was referring to the 114270 regarding the box/papers.

[keltzar]

See this thread from a while back:
http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=864

[teo]

$6K I rather get a preowned sea dweller.

[keltzar]

eh. The nearest comparison to the 1016 would be a discontinued Sea Dweller 16660. I don't think you will find that for $6k anymore. Maybe $7.5k or 8k.

[teo]

I mean a F or D series sea dweller.

[keltzar]

.. there is no comparison.
1016 is a collectible. F or D series sea dweller is current production.
The fair comparison would be a SD from the same period i.e. 1980s.

[ssworx]

anyone know what the original bracelet of the 1016 looks like?
Is it thinner & lighter than 114270?

[Taurus75]

anyone know what the original bracelet of the 1016 looks like?
Is it thinner & lighter than 114270?

the oyster bracelet for 114270 should be ref. no. 78690 and it should incorporate the solid end link(SEL). as for the 1016, i think the bracelet ref. no. is 7836 and it has a number (nt sure what no.) at the end piece near to the case lug. I think the 1016's bracelet should be lighter and thinner since it has no SEL. In any case, a 1016 original bracelet should have been stretched after years of wear.

[ssworx]

guys just verfied with e guy. it's not 1016 but 5500. may I know the diff?

[Taurus75]

guys just verfied with e guy. it's not 1016 but 5500. may I know the diff?

your pic definitely shows a 1016, as for the 5500, it is not often discussed as it is not very common. I think there is a difference in the prints on the dial between the 2. the 5500 dial is marked "Precision" and the 1016 is marked "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified". As for movements in 5500, I am not sure, maybe some bros here who are expert in this can help you. But serioulsy, IMO, i think if you really have intention of buying a vintage piece, u will probably have to do more homework on your own and research on it b4 you commit. juz my 0.02

[rigsg]

your pic definitely shows a 1016, as for the 5500, it is not often discussed as it is not very common. I think there is a difference in the prints on the dial between the 2. the 5500 dial is marked "Precision" and the 1016 is marked "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified". As for movements in 5500, I am not sure, maybe some bros here who are expert in this can help you. But serioulsy, IMO, i think if you really have intention of buying a vintage piece, u will probably have to do more homework on your own and research on it b4 you commit. juz my 0.02

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[Destro22BT]

your pic definitely shows a 1016, as for the 5500, it is not often discussed as it is not very common. I think there is a difference in the prints on the dial between the 2. the 5500 dial is marked "Precision" and the 1016 is marked "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified". As for movements in 5500, I am not sure, maybe some bros here who are expert in this can help you. But serioulsy, IMO, i think if you really have intention of buying a vintage piece, u will probably have to do more homework on your own and research on it b4 you commit. juz my 0.02

Yeap, no mistake about it, it's definitely NOT a 5500, but a 1016.