watch winder advice

[lthg25]

A decent winder does have 2 functions. One to wind your watch or to maintain a watch win and not over winding it. You need to find out what TPD your watch should be set and this will prevent your watch to be over wind.

In short yes, get a winder, a decent one, not one that you have no control over the TPD.

[triton]

based on your signature, you have 2 watches. i take is give the winder a miss.

Hi gd day to all, some issues tt I need ur advice. I own a pam 312 n been thinking if I need to buy a winder?

Cos I only wear my pam on weekends, so usually during weekends when I wanna wear my watch, e watch already been stop.(cos pwr reserve 3days)

Nw wat worry me is freq winding n pulling in/out of e crown to set date/time, will it cause wear n tear more on e crown? Scare touch wood will e crown spoil 1 day?

So been thinking shld I get e winder so wen I wanna wear I no need to wind n set time/date again.

However understand this add wear n tear to e watch too. Also read if put in winder might cause watch to fully wind n cause freq wear n tear to e cluth. So dilemma, so need some advice from all expert here

[foomeng3]

Hmmm thx guys, anyway if I really wanna get a winder, those under e watch tool section can buy?

[triton]

can buy or cannot buy is up to individual, you need to know what you are buying. as mentioned, one of the few important things to look out for is whether it allows users to set the TPD. another important thing to consider is the ability to set the winding directions. you also need to consider about warranty of the winder. there are also other considerations, you may want to read the other threads in this category.

A decent winder does have 2 functions. One to wind your watch or to maintain a watch win and not over winding it. You need to find out what TPD your watch should be set and this will prevent your watch to be over wind.

In short yes, get a winder, a decent one, not one that you have no control over the TPD.

Hmmm thx guys, anyway if I really wanna get a winder, those under e watch tool section can buy?

[roguehog]

Hi gd day to all, some issues tt I need ur advice. I own a pam 312 n been thinking if I need to buy a winder?

Cos I only wear my pam on weekends, so usually during weekends when I wanna wear my watch, e watch already been stop.(cos pwr reserve 3days)

Nw wat worry me is freq winding n pulling in/out of e crown to set date/time, will it cause wear n tear more on e crown? Scare touch wood will e crown spoil 1 day?

So been thinking shld I get e winder so wen I wanna wear I no need to wind n set time/date again.

However understand this add wear n tear to e watch too. Also read if put in winder might cause watch to fully wind n cause freq wear n tear to e cluth. So dilemma, so need some advice from all expert here

Yes, you should find out the TPD. In this case, according to the b&z database, the TPD for the Pam 9000 family (Pam 312 uses p9000) the TPD should be 650 both directions. If I'm correct your dssd should be the same.

I reckon it's a good idea to get a winder. Keeps the gears moving.

[foomeng3]

Thx guys, u all really been great help. Thx alot

[GadgetGuy]

Wondering how many buyers actually tested their winders.

FYI, got mine from this forum, good feedback, etc of seller. After a while, had some time one day and I sat down just to test the winder. Boring & time consuming process - took out stop watch, waited till winder started & timed it, wrote down how long it was winding and count how many rotations while it was winding, noted when winder stopped. Waited again for it to restart, wrote down the time, counted number of rotations again and timed how long it wound (did it twice to be consistent), and logged time it stopped.

After gotten my data, calculated how many TPD based on the data collected. Even though it was set for 650 TPD, according to my calculation, it was more than doubled the TPD. Tried another TPD settting and went through the boring process. Again, it was more than double. Tested twice and same result.

Check your winders guys. A lot of these taiwan, china made ones (even though ad says Japanese rotor) could actually spoil your watch by over winding... I stopped using a winder. Might explore buying a braded one in the future.

[Dfive]

Dealers have watches sitting not being wound in some cases for years.... so "is" the winder required really ?

Surely if the watch is kept in normal temperatures ( not high or low ) say 15-25.c and the watch get's wound each month, this will be enough to move the oils around all the gears ???

Sure a winder useful for big collections of more than 20pc.... but a question do any Manufacture suggest storage of a watch "in" a winder..... ???

[ten10]

IMHO, winders are for our convenience! If ones collection gets too 'large' and the owner rotates wearing them, he wants the convenience of just strapping it and go out. No need set time lah, set date lah, set day lah or set any thing.

There's no scientific proof that winders extend the life-span of a watch.

As GadgetGuy found out, most 'affordable' winders delivery more than what the preferred TPD should be. Search the DIY Section to read about Watch Winders.

cheers!

[Dfive]

Further to the above :

See - http://www.chronocentric.com/watches/winders.shtml

And - http://www.watchwinderstore.com/watch/winders.htm

" There is no significant evidence that a good watch winder will either save or harm your watch. The several watch repair professionals I've dealt with say they've never encountered a watch that 'would have been fine, if only the owner had kept it on a winder.' "

" How can an automatic watch winder enhance the mechanical life of my automatic watch?

In addition to reducing wear and tear of the crown system as mentioned above, a properly designed watch winder can help distribute the lubricating oil inside the watch evenly most of the times. When a watch winds down and stops, the lubricating oil inside the watch will tend to settle and clot, and lose certain extent of its viscosity over an extended period of time.
As such, the chance of certain moving parts not being properly lubricated when the watch runs again is much greater; resulting in increase friction and pressure caused to certain moving parts inside the watch. The consequence would be that the mechanical life of the watch could be shortened and the performance of the watch being hampered. This explain why certain watches, left in a watch retail store for too long a time without winding, seems to perform not in its pristine condition even if it is a "brand new" watch. "

That said, I don't use them.... but not changing times again must be a bonus.

[foomeng3]

Haha seems like to maintain a watch is really nt easy lolz

[TanWL]

It is not that difficult also . Just have to keep in mind, anything that moved need to moved once awhile. It's either you worn out the crown by manual winding or worn out the slip crutch by over winding in the winder.

[roguehog]

IMHO, winders are for our convenience! If ones collection gets too 'large' and the owner rotates wearing them, he wants the convenience of just strapping it and go out. No need set time lah, set date lah, set day lah or set any thing.

There's no scientific proof that winders extend the life-span of a watch.

As GadgetGuy found out, most 'affordable' winders delivery more than what the preferred TPD should be. Search the DIY Section to read about Watch Winders.

cheers!

Actually quite true about convenience. Especially if you have watches that do not have quick set date function.

[skydweller_sg]

Guess its cheaper to replace worn out crown

It is not that difficult also . Just have to keep in mind, anything that moved need to moved once awhile. It's either you worn out the crown by manual winding or worn out the slip crutch by over winding in the winder.

[TanWL]

I think some of us have forgotten and not giving enough credits to certain brands which are made for the extremes of condition. From the highest mountain to the deepest ocean and gone through world wars. THEY SURVIVED!!! So please don't threat them like sissy.