ARE Panerai Mvmt's IN HOUSE after all ??

[Dfive]

Hi all,

ARE Panerai Movements ACTUALLY in house ??

I'd like to know as it's my next plan...... or was ?

See info below:

Extract from site referring to the Panerai P9OOO Movement :
" 1) its not so in-house - its a valfleurier for panerai movement. i don't subscribe to the whole in-house for in-house sake thing so this is not important to me. if the price goes crazy then it gets to be an issue if its for a watch i like though
2) movement could have been better couldn't it? considering what they've done before? "
Link / Source :
http://timetapestry.blogspot.com/200...about-pam.html

Some Further Background :
http://www.europastar.com/magazine/h...-movement.html

[Dfive]

Then I read this....... actually some cool photos here:

http://www.watchtalkforums.info/foru...orum/28617.htm

" Panerai is a fascinating watch company to study as they've come such a long way in a very short time from a horological perspective. In 1997, the Richemont Group acquired Officine Panerai - an Italian watch company a very modest but extremely devoted following. By the year 2000, and interest in luxury mechanical wrist watches began growing worldwide - particularly interest in oversized sport watches. Panerai was in the right place at the right time, and their following grew. . However, because Panerai relied exclusively on outsourced ETA movements for their watches, some in the world of haute horology had trouble accepting Panerai among the world’s truly elite watch brands. Panerai and their parent company Richemont took two major steps to transform Panerai into a true manufacturer. The first was the acquisition and remodeling of an old police station in a desirable location in Neuchâtel Switzerland, which would become Panerai's manufacturing and assembly facility (Panerai's headquarters is in Milan, Italy). The second step taken by Richemont was the creation of an advanced movement design and manufacturing facility (the foundation of which started with the acquisition of the Piaget movement manufacturing center) known as Val Fleurier. Our photo tour begins with the Neuchâtel facility - primarily used for assembly, testing, and quality assurance. Movement parts come from either ETA or Val Fleurier, as well as cases, dials, hands, and straps (all produced by outside vendors) - all come together into a final finished product in Neuchâtel. "

[leeye]

it's pretty much a personal preference.

watch makers are going the in-house movement route for a reason, because Swatch Group is discontuning supply of their ETA movements. it's like a car maker without an engine supplier, what will you do? the logical thing is to develop your own engine. and by developing new engines/movements, you get new innovations from each watch maker.

by 2014, Panerai (which is under the Richemont Group) will have their own factory in Neuchâtel, Switzerland to produce parts and movement.

[Dfive]

it's pretty much a personal preference.

watch makers are going the in-house movement route for a reason, because Swatch Group is discontuning supply of their ETA movements. it's like a car maker without an engine supplier, what will you do? the logical thing is to develop your own engine. and by developing new engines/movements, you get new innovations from each watch maker.

by 2014, Panerai (which is under the Richemont Group) will have their own factory in Neuchâtel, Switzerland to produce parts and movement.

Cheers for the info Leeye, ya was aware of the ETA thing..... just unaware of the current stutus of their movements.... all the AD's say certain models are in-house Mvmt's.... appears they are in fact from a very very close sister company ( part of Richemont, a company more secretive than Rolex... )

[leeye]

i would say they are moving more into in-house movements, in particular the new P3000 series which may take over from the OPI/II movements.

[Dfive]

i would say they are moving more into in-house movements, in particular the new P3000 series which may take over from the OPI/II movements.

Yes the links I referred to seem to point at the P9000 Mvmt's.

( am I right ??? ) Seems Panerai has gone this way in it's history with Mvmt's:

-- ??? Rolex ( or other leading manufacture ) > OPI/II - ETA Mvmt's > P9000 - Val Fleurier mvmt's > P3000 - ??? Mvmt's. > Panerai in 2014 ???

[holynitro]

i think .. the historic model still using the OP movement.. not in house.. ex : 000 , 111 . 005

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