Panerai Authentication

[alpha4]

When I pull out the crown, should the second dial stop?
The problem arises everytime after I adjust the time.
The minute needle doesn't move for about 15 mins ,then it will move. After sometimes it will stop again.
Any1 has any idea?

[pegasi]

It has a non-hacking movement meaning the second hand willl continue to run during time adjustment, unless of course the power reserve is totally flat.

Judging from your description, there is definitely some problem with the watch.

[pegasi]

Hang on...I suppose you have wound up the watch?

[alpha4]

I did wound up the watch. The second dial is moving, as well as th parts at the back case. Anyway the seller , edsonchan has get back to me. We would settle the problem on monday. He is definitely a good and honest seller.

[pegasi]

Ok good to hear that.

[Watcha]

Since its under warranty from Richemont, best to ask them to rectify.

With my limited knowledge , I reckon it's a loose cannon pinion.
It's the shaft that holds the hour and minute hands.
It was suppose to clamp tight enough for the wheels to move the hands and loose enough to move the hands to set time.

If it is dismantling movement is inevitable to re clamp and tighten it.

[lufu]

Having one myself and also having seen the high-end replicas, I always thought the dead give-away was the way the crown turns. The fake has this springy feel about it i.e. it seems to jump back a fraction after you give it a wind. Whereas the real ones stop wherever you stop winding. Anyone feels the same?

the crown guard lever also wobble on the fake one.

[glay78]

at first glance can you tell this is a replica?

Yes this is a fake. Looking at the incabloc tells u. The screw at the swan neck isn't touching the dagger too. If u know what I mean.

[wt_know]

and the alignment of the word OFFICINE PANERAI is out ... lolz

[bearbearfury]

Yes this is a fake. Looking at the incabloc tells u. The screw at the swan neck isn't touching the dagger too. If u know what I mean.

The casing with L series and the crown guard seems real to me.....normally fake series should be older series like H, G J... and the fake does not have level with the ball bearing which is visible. looks real to me.

The movement of the PAM 111 or 112 is very shiny, refined and well polished....but the picture of the movement is not clear... so hard to tell for the movement

[glay78]

The casing with L series and the crown guard seems real to me.....normally fake series should be older series like H, G J... and the fake does not have level with the ball bearing which is visible. looks real to me.

The movement of the PAM 111 or 112 is very shiny, refined and well polished....but the picture of the movement is not clear... so hard to tell for the movement

This is a fake looking at the movement as I posted. There are now N series fake 111 and it can be modded to look really alike. So dont be surprised by clones now.

[ac_wong75]

This is a bit scary if the quality was much better it would be indeed hard to tell them apart... At one glance think most of the folks spotted the OFFICINE PANERAI is out of line, but the bit on the incabloc was new to me but after observing my own PAM 111 that finally understood bro Glay78 was talking about.... Glad to learn something new today...

[bearbearfury]

This is a fake looking at the movement as I posted. There are now N series fake 111 and it can be modded to look really alike. So dont be surprised by clones now.

wow...scary....
does pirated ones have bar code, COSC and warranty card?

[glay78]

wow...scary....
does pirated ones have bar code, COSC and warranty card?

Yes bro. Read from Forum in US there are poeple who got conned from eBay. Bought 111 full set but it's fake. Can't remember if he got money back.

[wu_song]

Authentication for Pam

Hi guys, I am planning to get my 1st pam (thru grey seller) but have totally no experience. May I know where or how can I do an authentication? Im planning to get a 113 with a clear backcase, would that be easier to verify? Thanks!