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  • PAM190 - real or fake?

    Hi bros,

    I might be closing in on a deal for a NOS PAM190 with a private seller in HKG, and would like to seek any additional advice on whether the piece is genuine (or not). Based on the seller's pics he sent me, the watch and box look legit.









    Appreciate your views, and thanks much!
    My madness so far :

    Bell & Ross BR03-94 Phantom
    IWC 320104 Antoine de St Exupery Power Reserve - For Sale
    IWC 371701 Pilot's Chronograph
    IWC 500401 Big Pilot
    PAM26K Luminor Marina Left-handed Special Edition
    PAM233K Luminor 1950 8 Days GMT
    PAM190H Radiomir 8 Days
    Sinn UBlack

  • #2
    Looks ok (even the movement) but I don't want to be held responsible if it turns out fake. You will need to hold and check closer to see.

    And of course the golden rule "Buy the seller"!

    Did you instruct him to send you a pic of the time at 9:55? Else, the pics could be real but may not belong to him?

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    • #3
      Yup, me no expert but from the pics, it looks okay to me ... Always "buy the seller" and pass when in doubt ... pics of the real thing are not difficult to obtain ...

      Originally posted by KuchingKu View Post
      Looks ok (even the movement) but I don't want to be held responsible if it turns out fake. You will need to hold and check closer to see.

      And of course the golden rule "Buy the seller"!

      Did you instruct him to send you a pic of the time at 9:55? Else, the pics could be real but may not belong to him?
      运筹帷幄 决胜千里

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      • #4
        Do some reference checks on the seller...he might send pictures of the real watch...but might not send the real watch....

        That is why i seldom buy online or from overseas....

        Lots of pitfalls....and hassle.....too risky for me

        Personal view here....happy hunting for the Pam 190!!!!
        Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak

        Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen

        Quoted from Sir Winston Churchill

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        • #5
          Yup, agree with bro feilong that it's generally more risky and troublesome to purchase on-line ... probably why personally, I'd not been buying and/or selling overseas so much since SG-ROC & another local watchsite had been set up ...

          In any case, Pam 190 is an excellent choice! Good luck with your watch purchase!



          Originally posted by feilong108 View Post
          Do some reference checks on the seller...he might send pictures of the real watch...but might not send the real watch....

          That is why i seldom buy online or from overseas....

          Lots of pitfalls....and hassle.....too risky for me

          Personal view here....happy hunting for the Pam 190!!!!
          运筹帷幄 决胜千里

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          • #6
            Thanks bros for your quick replies! Much appreciated.

            I've asked a friend in HKG to meet with the seller to inspect the watch. If everything's ok, I'll then wire the payment across.
            My madness so far :

            Bell & Ross BR03-94 Phantom
            IWC 320104 Antoine de St Exupery Power Reserve - For Sale
            IWC 371701 Pilot's Chronograph
            IWC 500401 Big Pilot
            PAM26K Luminor Marina Left-handed Special Edition
            PAM233K Luminor 1950 8 Days GMT
            PAM190H Radiomir 8 Days
            Sinn UBlack

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            • #7
              My frd, you can try yr luck on the ctc given below.

              Contact Sam Cheng @ hp: 9824 9482
              Tel: 65-67370934

              He has alot of Panerai watches at his shop & all is real ones.

              All the best to you on yr buying.

              Dun buy from overseas seller unless you knw him or her vry well.

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              • #8
                Maybe you can ask the seller to display or take photos of the PAM movement on specific date that you state(since 8day power reserve PAM is not cheap so he should be willing to do it if you want to buy from him) and then you know whether it is a real or fake PAM that his is selling to you(but some grade A clone has very good caseback imitation). But then again, he still can pack a clone and ship it to you. Cheers.
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                • #9
                  Cannot be fake. Everything 'show hand' leow!
                  I own a Rolex !

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                  • #10
                    Agree with bro psee that the 190 is an excellent choice !!

                    Do post pics once you have acquired the watch

                    In the meantime, let me contribute another pic of this wonderful watch

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                    • #11
                      Absolute stunner!
                      I own a Rolex !

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                      • #12
                        Thanks bros for your comments!

                        Asked a friend in HKG to meet the seller yesterday, and watch checked out fine. Now just gotta agree on payment method, and hopefully can join the 190 club soon!
                        My madness so far :

                        Bell & Ross BR03-94 Phantom
                        IWC 320104 Antoine de St Exupery Power Reserve - For Sale
                        IWC 371701 Pilot's Chronograph
                        IWC 500401 Big Pilot
                        PAM26K Luminor Marina Left-handed Special Edition
                        PAM233K Luminor 1950 8 Days GMT
                        PAM190H Radiomir 8 Days
                        Sinn UBlack

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                        • #13
                          PAM 190 is an excellent choice!

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                          • #14
                            Mind sharing me the damage Bro, heard winding it feels like butter, so smooth.

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                            • #15
                              sam has many watches but very ex and rather get watch from oversea AD or seller.

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