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Please advice : shld i trade my pam 312 for pam 233?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Watcha View Post
    233

    beautiful dome crystal

    nice dial

    more refine movement.

    thinner.

    cannot understand why the 3 day auto have to be so thick and no instant date change.
    due to the automatic mechanism..

    Originally posted by Paneraii View Post
    hahaha.. just my weird analogy
    hahaha me too last time thought like you. Than after much talk about there were so many examples of good timepieces that nvr been to a spa before after 20 yrs...still keeping good time.

    Originally posted by Dmaul77 View Post
    +1 for the 233, never regret buying it ... still loving it

    Cheers
    me too.....here some wrist shots!



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    • #32
      Originally posted by Ender View Post
      For this hobby of ours, logic does not really apply.
      Passion tends to be the critical override.
      Between a 312 and a 233, I will get the 233.
      I will not get both as I find them too similar.
      My view is go to a AD/grey dealer again, and try on the 233.
      After that, give yourself 2 weeks to make the final decision.
      During this 2 weeks, try out different strap combi with your 312.
      Sometimes with a different strap, you may find yourself appreciating the 312 again.
      After the 2 weeks, if you are still pining for the 233, go for it.
      Life's too short to be spent wondering if the 233's worthwhile to get etc...and until you get it, you will never really know the answer.
      Have fun!
      Hi Bro,
      I totally agree with you and convinced of this statement
      "Sometimes with a different strap, you may find yourself appreciating the 312 again".

      I started wearing my old watches like new purchases after changing their straps.
      I am falling with my old eatches again.

      Also gotten 2 free, lousy watches through credit card promotion, their straps sucks but the watch cases and dial designs still can make it. So i have decided to buy exciting straps to replace instead of throwing them away/ give away.

      In fact, as a newbie, in terms of looks, I can easily classify Pams into 4 main categories:
      1) Luminor casing - Historic
      2) Luminor 1950 style casing
      3) Radiomir
      4) Complicates and sophisticates

      As such, within the same cat, they tend look quite similar to spent another few thousand dollars (1 pc at least $5k) to keep buying.
      As I do not have high disposable income, I would just stick to my Pam351 and move on to another brand, then come back for Radiomir in the following year.

      In the economy, not every sector has picked up as fast, as secured, well-paid, with people's salary increased much.
      Hence, would suggest you to be prudent and conservative, unless you have high disposable income every month.

      Buy a good strap, which sings to you can already cost you more than $200...
      However, every time, you change a strap, it's a brand new look again.
      You definitely be falling in love with your existing watches again.
      My humble beginning:
      Ball - Conductor (SE), Rolex - Green Sub LV (Alpha-numeric series), Omega - PO XL & Pam - 351 (M-series)

      Dream watch:
      It is a tough choice between IWC IW500114 and IW500109.
      [url]http://www.iwcportugieser.com/en/[/url]
      [url]http://www.iwc.com/en-us/collection/portuguese/IW5001/[/url]

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Black Mercury View Post
        Hi Bro,
        I totally agree with you and convinced of this statement
        "Sometimes with a different strap, you may find yourself appreciating the 312 again".

        I started wearing my old watches like new purchases after changing their straps.
        I am falling with my old eatches again.

        Also gotten 2 free, lousy watches through credit card promotion, their straps sucks but the watch cases and dial designs still can make it. So i have decided to buy exciting straps to replace instead of throwing them away/ give away.

        In fact, as a newbie, in terms of looks, I can easily classify Pams into 4 main categories:
        1) Luminor casing - Historic
        2) Luminor 1950 style casing
        3) Radiomir
        4) Complicates and sophisticates

        As such, within the same cat, they tend look quite similar to spent another few thousand dollars (1 pc at least $5k) to keep buying.
        As I do not have high disposable income, I would just stick to my Pam351 and move on to another brand, then come back for Radiomir in the following year.

        In the economy, not every sector has picked up as fast, as secured, well-paid, with people's salary increased much.
        Hence, would suggest you to be prudent and conservative, unless you have high disposable income every month.

        Buy a good strap, which sings to you can already cost you more than $200...
        However, every time, you change a strap, it's a brand new look again.
        You definitely be falling in love with your existing watches again.
        bro the strap thingy applies to all pannies not just 312 arrrrgh This is the thingy i'm attracted to pam watches. 312 and 233 they are both different classes of watches altogether. 3 days auto vs 8 days manual...if you google 312 vs 233 there are so much talkabout about them. bro last but not least just buy what sings to you and also within your means. Good luck!

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        • #34
          Bro just to share ,
          I own both the 312 and 233 at 1 time , upgrade from 111 to 312 than buy another 233 .
          After less than 2 months sold off the 312 cos totally no wrist time at all .
          When i have the 111 , always swear and curse for having to wind it almost everyday , than i thought to myself my next Pam gotta be a automatic , hence upgrade to the 312 which was very new back than .
          Wear it for around 3 mths , start to miss those day when i would wind the watch, finally decide on the 233 as i only need to wind it once every 8 days and like most bro say , simi sia also have Pam , partly also because i wanted a manual watch in my collection as all my others are autos .
          Focal JM_Labs .
          "The Sprits Of Sounds".

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          Rolex Precision 6694 Black Dial
          Rolex Precision 6694 Silver Dial
          Rolex Oyster Perpetual Z series black dial 176200
          Panerai 233K 8 days power reserve
          Cartier Santos 100XL
          Hublot Big Bang Edition 44mm

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          • #35
            As for me, l persoanlly prefer to the roots of OP especially the "Base" series and u feel that manual winding will bond very well in your personal lifestyle too,my 3 cents info!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BRABUS View Post
              Bro just to share ,
              I own both the 312 and 233 at 1 time , upgrade from 111 to 312 than buy another 233 .
              After less than 2 months sold off the 312 cos totally no wrist time at all .
              When i have the 111 , always swear and curse for having to wind it almost everyday , than i thought to myself my next Pam gotta be a automatic , hence upgrade to the 312 which was very new back than .
              Wear it for around 3 mths , start to miss those day when i would wind the watch, finally decide on the 233 as i only need to wind it once every 8 days and like most bro say , simi sia also have Pam , partly also because i wanted a manual watch in my collection as all my others are autos .
              ok now you got me thinking if i shld let my 233 go.....

              Originally posted by FullHouse View Post
              As for me, l persoanlly prefer to the roots of OP especially the "Base" series and u feel that manual winding will bond very well in your personal lifestyle too,my 3 cents info!
              this is why i gotten the fiddy five....haha. Now "trying" to get used to powering up the engine everyday....

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              • #37
                keep doing it daily and you will be very happy to own it with no regret.....this is the Power of dream....hehe

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                • #38
                  For me with a 233 + 104 pairing is good enough and of cos within my "budget"

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by louie View Post
                    ok now you got me thinking if i shld let my 233 go.....

                    this is why i gotten the fiddy five....haha. Now "trying" to get used to powering up the engine everyday....
                    Haha bro,
                    Remember you the one who poison me to go for the 233 years ago ?
                    Anyway no regrets whatsoever , only wind it like 3 times a month , winding the watch is like building up a bond between the watch and you .
                    But recently keep thinking if i should sell most of my watch to buy a RM and keep my AP and put a end to all these .
                    Focal JM_Labs .
                    "The Sprits Of Sounds".

                    Rolex WG Daytona D series Silver dial 116509
                    Rolex RG DD II with pink diamond dial V Series 218235
                    Rolex YG President DD with Diamond and Ruby 18038
                    Rolex Explorer I Black D series 114270
                    Rolex DJ TT Grey Dial 16233
                    Rolex Precision 6694 Black Dial
                    Rolex Precision 6694 Silver Dial
                    Rolex Oyster Perpetual Z series black dial 176200
                    Panerai 233K 8 days power reserve
                    Cartier Santos 100XL
                    Hublot Big Bang Edition 44mm

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BRABUS View Post
                      Haha bro,
                      Remember you the one who poison me to go for the 233 years ago ?
                      Anyway no regrets whatsoever , only wind it like 3 times a month , winding the watch is like building up a bond between the watch and you .
                      But recently keep thinking if i should sell most of my watch to buy a RM and keep my AP and put a end to all these .
                      bro this is what i thought,let go all to get my grail....like what bro 116520 said, buy the BEST forget the rest....hahahaa.Whao RM out of my league....really nice and distinctive!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by louie View Post
                        bro this is what i thought,let go all to get my grail....like what bro 116520 said, buy the BEST forget the rest....hahahaa.Whao RM out of my league....really nice and distinctive!
                        Yap recently poison by the RM 10 in RG , always thought its really nice to own one someday , the feeling of putting it on my wrist is just sooooo nice .
                        It's really like a lambo on a wrist , while PP feels more like a RR .
                        Maybe at this stage , a lambo should be more suitable for me . Haha.....
                        Focal JM_Labs .
                        "The Sprits Of Sounds".

                        Rolex WG Daytona D series Silver dial 116509
                        Rolex RG DD II with pink diamond dial V Series 218235
                        Rolex YG President DD with Diamond and Ruby 18038
                        Rolex Explorer I Black D series 114270
                        Rolex DJ TT Grey Dial 16233
                        Rolex Precision 6694 Black Dial
                        Rolex Precision 6694 Silver Dial
                        Rolex Oyster Perpetual Z series black dial 176200
                        Panerai 233K 8 days power reserve
                        Cartier Santos 100XL
                        Hublot Big Bang Edition 44mm

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by BRABUS View Post
                          Haha bro,
                          Remember you the one who poison me to go for the 233 years ago ?
                          Anyway no regrets whatsoever , only wind it like 3 times a month , winding the watch is like building up a bond between the watch and you .
                          But recently keep thinking if i should sell most of my watch to buy a RM and keep my AP and put a end to all these .

                          yo bro, i m planning to upgrade the 111 of yours to 233 as well. hands itchy again, trying hard not to think of AP yet

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                          • #43
                            Yap never go wrong with the 233 . At least you save one step , i really lose quite abit on the 312 back than when its still a very hot model ......
                            AP is very poisonous , now my 2 favorite watch that get the most wrists time is the 233 and volcano .
                            Focal JM_Labs .
                            "The Sprits Of Sounds".

                            Rolex WG Daytona D series Silver dial 116509
                            Rolex RG DD II with pink diamond dial V Series 218235
                            Rolex YG President DD with Diamond and Ruby 18038
                            Rolex Explorer I Black D series 114270
                            Rolex DJ TT Grey Dial 16233
                            Rolex Precision 6694 Black Dial
                            Rolex Precision 6694 Silver Dial
                            Rolex Oyster Perpetual Z series black dial 176200
                            Panerai 233K 8 days power reserve
                            Cartier Santos 100XL
                            Hublot Big Bang Edition 44mm

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BRABUS View Post
                              Yap never go wrong with the 233 . At least you save one step , i really lose quite abit on the 312 back than when its still a very hot model ......
                              AP is very poisonous , now my 2 favorite watch that get the most wrists time is the 233 and volcano .
                              LOL.. i just got my hands on a 233 from bro stanley. chio chio armani

                              and thinking of the AP volcano makes me itchy again :S

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                              • #45
                                Go go go!!!

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