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I am interested to know how you determined that the watch from the second picture is a fake (I.e the Fiddy). I could not tell at a glance. What gave it away ? Did you inspect it physically or just from the pictures? In any case just based on the first picture you should let us know who is person is to avoid anyone from falling victim...
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U mean u really went to see the watches personally?
It would be good that you expose this scammer.
Hope that nobody else have fallen into this scam.Comment
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movement_art, for a self-described upright & stand-up guy who believes in karmic principles, why not share details on the seller?
in a way it may help some members on practising due diligence on watch appraisals... But with each posts by you, this thread throws up more questions rather than answers...
Are the watches being offered by a dealer or an individual with a gambling habit?.. And first meet up just to view pictures or physical watches only on subsequent visits?..
It's entirely your prerogative on whether you want to share the info... But I believe that I'm not the only who thinks that it's not just the watches that are bogus...Comment
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Reply to Zahari, after i saw the watch i can confirm that its replica.
Reply to Clokwerk, offer to dealer first then email picture to me, i know the dealer and ask them and future confirm its replica status, the seller is some one 1 didn't met. Its my relative 's business associate, whom is a exec chef (Aussie ang mo) working in a 5 star hotel in orchard. His get my relative to sell it away, using reason he always working, no time, no friends, cannot get staff to sell away, mention stay at 1 tree hill, mention cannot let wife know selling watches, thats why box and paper at home safebox.
I reckon his is a experience scammer, just now i meet up with my relative, he still didnt realise that its replica. I dun know how to tell him and he is still helping the scammer to let others to view and buy the watches. Please advice how do i talk to him so that it won't land him into trouble.Comment
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Bro,Originally posted by movement_art View Post
Isn't your relative a fellow member using the nick 'Inception'? Point him to this thread lah...or are there more relatives involved now with this Aussie Executive Chef with a bad gambling habit and a collection of even worse replica watches???
I doubt the Chef is an experienced scammer, with such piss poor quality replica, he'd definitely be caught the first time scamming.Sweet 16:
PP Aquanaut
VC Overseas
AP ROO Black Themes
A.Lange & Sohne 1815
Breguet Type XXI
Blancpain 50 Fathoms
JLC Navy Seals
GO Senator 60s
GP Laureato
Zenith Pilot Extra Special
Rolex DSSD
IWC Big Pilot
Pam 112
Omega Ploprof
Breitling Super Avenger
Glycine F104Comment
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The fiddy is definitely fake, and it's actually quite easy to tell from the pic posted by TS.Originally posted by zameenzahari View Post
Helps that I used to own a gen fiddy, but there are a few common tell-tale signs of a fake amongst most fake PAMs. Will be happy to share with you over PM or kopi if you want
What's in the box:- Patek Philippe 5726A
- IWC Portu Chrono 3714-14
- Panerai 187 Subzilla
- Garmin Fenix 3
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A fake is a fake.
A scam is a scam.
What is so difficult to tell or say.Comment
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wow, nowadays these fake watches really look real to many.. better don't anyhow buy lehComment
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First one is super low grade fake so anyone can tell. The fiddy is easy to tell from the pic too. If don't believe, go search for a fiddy pic and do a side by side comparison. Most can tell.Originally posted by Mio View PostComment
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Originally posted by burnz View PostThe fiddy is definitely fake, and it's actually quite easy to tell from the pic posted by TS.
Helps that I used to own a gen fiddy, but there are a few common tell-tale signs of a fake amongst most fake PAMs. Will be happy to share with you over PM or kopi if you wantFor the benefit of fellow members here, why not just share the tell tale signs on this thread in regards to the 'PAM127'? In keeping with the spirit of this forum, don't really see any downside to sharing your knowledge here...Originally posted by KuchingKu View PostComment
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Get a pic and put side to side and see. Easier than putting into words.Originally posted by clokwerk oranje View PostComment
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Done that & I can't with absolute certainty arrive at the conclusion that TS' 'PAM127' is a fugazi based on just that one photo... Especially when there are other variables (camera angles & lighting are just two), so it's not really an apple to apple comparison for me... A physical inspection would have been preferable, if only TS was more forthcoming with dealer/seller information....Originally posted by KuchingKu View Post
Appreciate if you can point out the parts that sticks out the most? Crown guard, Dial, Crystal, Lugs? Don't have to be descriptive but a short brief may well start some of us on the way...Comment
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What i find interesting is how this chap (chef, dealer, relative's friend yada yada) tries marketing 2 watches from total opposite ends of the spectrum:
1) An outright fake that doesnt even classify in any of the Panerai range
2) An upper end collectible that doesnt pop up every other day
I mean if you're a seasoned con-act, you'll rather be peddling the all popular common models then something that:
1) "does not even exist in the product line"
2) "A rare collectible in the 5 figure range"
I just got a gut feel we're just being taken for a ride here with the entire storyline....Comment
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Agree. Physically checking it would definitely unveal the truth. Based on just that 1 photo and my memory of years of looking at the 127 plus owning a 217....at one glance, the gold hands a little weird and the centre of the hands should have a gold cover nob. All said, this might be a real thing with a missing cap but with such background, I am more slanted towards it being a really good fake from the pic.Originally posted by clokwerk oranje View Post
With physical check and the accessories, no way to run...cos that's the way to catch the fake E117/1950. But, that one has been so well documented online by others that once you see E117 you should run. Just have to pity the original owner of the E117.
And like the last person who posted...TS may just be using the 2 pic to create some talk and fun here. Let's just let him have his day to weave some yarn.Comment
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