To get a PAM Auto or Winding?

[shuseido]

Hi pegasi bro, I am having the exact same thoughts + situation + dilenma as you! Hahaha... May be the main problem is not enough bullets to pull the trigger.

Almost decided to get the Pam 005 to stop the itchyness, but only almost.

In my opinion, from value-for-money point of view...

- the entry level manual winding PAM using ETA 6497 modified movement have least worth. I believe the 6497 is a relatively cheap movement though it is a proven movement and enhanced to COSC standard by Panerai.

- the mid-range automatic PAM using ETA Valjoux movement are a better buy value wise but still expensive.

- the hingh-end range using in-house movement P2000 or P9000 serious, priced above $11K (I think) and onwards, though expensive, are actually priced more reasonably when compared with other makes with in-house movement.

All said, I do not deny that Panerai watches are damn good-look watches with excellent quality and successful branding that command some premium on price.

In fact I have been wanting and holding back on getting one as I have yet to convince myself whether to spend the least just to own a piece, or throw in my hard-earned money for the more expensive ones which I believe more worthwhile keeping...

Open to different opinions...

[pegasi]

Hi pegasi bro, I am having the exact same thoughts + situation + dilenma as you! Hahaha... May be the main problem is not enough bullets to pull the trigger.

Almost decided to get the Pam 005 to stop the itchyness, but only almost.

Let's see who can tahan the itchyness longer, hehehe. Drop each other a note when the bullet is triggered

May I borrow the slogan from another bro...I dun need another watch, I dun need another watch, I dun need another watch, I dun need another watch...

[Ryuden]

Let's see who can tahan the itchyness longer, hehehe. Drop each other a note when the bullet is triggered

May I borrow the slogan from another bro...I dun need another watch, I dun need another watch, I dun need another watch, I dun need another watch...

Let me help you with that Bro Pegasi...Its should go like this...

I dun need another watch which is the same as I have now ,
I dun need another watch which is the same as I have now ,
I dun need another watch which is the same as I have now ,
I dun need another watch which is the same as I have now .

[batamboy]

bro Ryuden, i agree with u! i own a pam24, 183, 233 as well. my 24 is 3yrs old ... all r in good health....! But thinking of selling my 24.. abit xian with that liao.. 233 n 183 r babes, more lasting look..

[Ryuden]

thinking of selling my 24.. abit xian with that liao...

You serious Bro..? How can you do that?! The current Sub i.e. the 24,25,64,87 and 243 are the 'offspring' of their GREAT father the 341! There's a lot of 'roots' in that 24 Bro! (LOL! Joking Joking)

I am loving my 87 though. This one 'should be a keeper'. I guess.

Nice collection you have Bro. Maybe some pics to 'help' TS make some considerations..? And myself maybe?

Cheers.

[Ryuden]

My Bluey Sub...



Still with the OEM rubber strap and the lovely Keychain from my 2nd Home,Bali.

Anyone interested to 'donate' a used strap to me? LOL!

Cheers.

[GadgetGuy]

Still with the OEM rubber strap and the lovely Keychain from my 2nd Home,Bali.

Anyone interested to 'donate' a used strap to me? LOL!

Cheers.

Love the keychain. Nice watch too.

[shuseido]

Let's see who can tahan the itchyness longer, hehehe. Drop each other a note when the bullet is triggered

May I borrow the slogan from another bro...I dun need another watch, I dun need another watch, I dun need another watch, I dun need another watch...

Hahaha... too bad cant get any discount for 312/321, if not, i might already bite the bullet and paying installments by CC. Hahaha...

[golanheights]

Just one question..

King007,

I am also learning about this brand. I assume that this is your first PAMmie. From the way the question was phrased, I also assume that you are indifferent towards a manual wind or an auto.

May I ask you gently but directly?

Do you need the date for this exciting piece?
Meaning to say.. if there is no date, you will get a little uncomfy owning it after a while.

[Metank]

King007,

I am also learning about this brand. I assume that this is your first PAMmie. From the way the question was phrased, I also assume that you are indifferent towards a manual wind or an auto.

May I ask you gently but directly?

Do you need the date for this exciting piece?
Meaning to say.. if there is no date, you will get a little uncomfy owning it after a while.

Actually if pam 005 has date, i would confirm get the pam 005 but o well. they don't. So im gonna get the pam 312 lol.

[golanheights]

312... good choice mate...

Actually if pam 005 has date, i would confirm get the pam 005 but o well. they don't. So im gonna get the pam 312 lol.

Bro, they might just produce one soon...

In my subjective views, I could find no fault with the 312. If disposable income permits, 312 is a good buy among the PAM range.

The movement ...not bad....Double barrels for the 3 dayz. But the 233 got 1 more barrel... hehe...

312, good choice.

[king007]

You are right

King007,

I am also learning about this brand. I assume that this is your first PAMmie. From the way the question was phrased, I also assume that you are indifferent towards a manual wind or an auto.

May I ask you gently but directly?

Do you need the date for this exciting piece?
Meaning to say.. if there is no date, you will get a little uncomfy owning it after a while.

Hi,

You are quite right. I am indeed indifferent towards a manual wind or an auto. I am in dilemma with both the historical meaning of PAM (of which winding is the way to go) and the value for money theory (of which Valjoux is better money worth than Unitas).

I am ok with a watch without a date - I own a Rolex Submariner No Date btw.

Got a crazy idea and that is to get both. Sigh, but still, money no enough, so must make a choice to get either.

[batamboy]

You serious Bro..? How can you do that?! The current Sub i.e. the 24,25,64,87 and 243 are the 'offspring' of their GREAT father the 341! There's a lot of 'roots' in that 24 Bro! (LOL! Joking Joking)

I am loving my 87 though. This one 'should be a keeper'. I guess.

Nice collection you have Bro. Maybe some pics to 'help' TS make some considerations..? And myself maybe?

Cheers.

haha.. but dunno how to post my pix.. how to do that? without my 233, the 183 n 24 r nothing actually..

[Ryuden]

haha.. but dunno how to post my pix.. how to do that? without my 233, the 183 n 24 r nothing actually..

You can just attached the URL link if you have photobucket or flicker.

Cheers.

[Metank]

Don't mind me asking bros. what's the retailing price for a new pam 312?