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I am considering to get a PAM. But the question is whether to get a automatic or a winding piece. Can anyone advise?
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Get What YOU Want...
thats what most will tell ya.
If you wanna a Historical piece, manual winding is the way to go.
If you wanna Contemporary, get the auto then.
After owning both manual and auto Pammies, I would think the auto suits my lifestyle best.No winding requires(unless it has not been worn for sometime and it stops) and it has a date. But...the manual one is a joy to wind it. Its like bonding with my watch and Panerai is all about the manual which lead back to its roots.
So, yeah. Get what you want and what suits you and your lifestyle best.
Happy Panerai hunting.
Cheers.
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it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward.
How much you can take, and keep moving forward.
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I had a frd whom had a Panerai Submersible.dunno they exact model number as pardon me I am not really a pro in watches.
But after wearing it for 2 years or so (He bought it new as I go to Hour glass with him) so i know about it...
So yea, after wearing for 2 years the Hour Hand/Minute Hand start to oxidise with the small circle marking on it and it make the watch look like some old watch or some imitate watch...
As in if i do not go with him, I wud haf reckon tat the watch is fake, being that u pay about 10K plus or so for a watch but after 2 years it oxidise?
it just show tat the quality is not there and honestly speaking, after seeing his watch..my mind told me that I will not wanna buy a panerai.Comment
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To Each Its Own...
Originally posted by Tua Pao Xian(CannonDeity) View Post
i guess...
Pardon me if I am wrong in this and more pros bro could chip in to correct me. Panerai Sub hands has been known to oxidised but that is not an indication of how bad a quality or how terrible the make is. It has something to do with the Tritium that they used on the Sub hands.And due to this usage, the radioactive isotope of hydrogen, cause corrosion on the hands.
It has totally nothing to do with moisture getting into the watch or anywhere near that.This is through my limited knowledge on Panerai Subs, maybe the more knowledgable bros could correct me on this if I am off track.
I understand what you meant by the oxidation makes the Panerai watch looks like fake. I have a share on that experience once when I browse around to get my Sub fixed. You can refer to this post:
http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=37007
I dont care if people thinks my Panerai with its oxidised hands are fake cause deep down I knew, that person knows nothing about it.
Panerai might now be appeling to you like how Rolex is not appeling to me. But I am happy with my Panerai. Its sings to me and but a bloody sinister smile on my face everytime I wear it.
To Each Its Own...
'It ain't how hard you hit;
it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward.
How much you can take, and keep moving forward.
That's how winning is done.'Comment
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HI Bro Ryuden, Thanks for your info and I agree with you.
Anyway just what I encounter and my personal opinion so i decided to share with you guys. ANd thanks for the knowledge about the Tritium.
Panerai are nice looking watch, and yes I fully agree with you that each person got different opinion=)
Cheers!!Comment
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I do have PAM 111. I like it very much but the shortfall is that it is manual winding and comes without a date. I thought of upgrading to auto unit like PAM 312 but the price is very steep. anyone got any recommendation?
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+1.Originally posted by Ryuden View Post
I like to have date function on my watches and tend to swich between watches depending on mood, so got myself automatic Panerai; until I buy a manual winding 8-day 233
Prefer to pick up watch and wear, rather than having to wind & adjust time if not worn for a while. All about lifestyle as bro Ryuden said.
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Ask yourself this questions -Originally posted by king007 View Post
A) do you intend to wear the watch everyday?
B) do you mind winding the watch every morning?
If your answers to A) is yes, and B) is yes, please get an auto.
For me, I always thought that I wld get an auto over a manual anytime, but after getting into Pams, I now prefer manual over auto, and i actually enjoy winding it every morning."Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence,
three times is enemy action and
over 600 is clearly the work of an ancient Sumerian demon or some sh*t."Comment
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Probably one of the submersibles model.Originally posted by Tua Pao Xian(CannonDeity) View Post
Pam subs are known for this trait - some, like you, see it as a sign of poor QC, while others actually buy the watch only if the hands are oxidised. For me, I am still looking for one like that...."Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence,
three times is enemy action and
over 600 is clearly the work of an ancient Sumerian demon or some sh*t."Comment
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In my opinion, from value-for-money point of view...
- the entry level manual winding PAM using ETA 6497 modified movement have least worth. I believe the 6497 is a relatively cheap movement though it is a proven movement and enhanced to COSC standard by Panerai.
- the mid-range automatic PAM using ETA Valjoux movement are a better buy value wise but still expensive.
- the hingh-end range using in-house movement P2000 or P9000 serious, priced above $11K (I think) and onwards, though expensive, are actually priced more reasonably when compared with other makes with in-house movement.
All said, I do not deny that Panerai watches are damn good-look watches with excellent quality and successful branding that command some premium on price.
In fact I have been wanting and holding back on getting one as I have yet to convince myself whether to spend the least just to own a piece, or throw in my hard-earned money for the more expensive ones which I believe more worthwhile keeping...
Open to different opinions...Watches are like potato chips - You never stop at one
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I like to view the comments here. Very unbias. It speak up ! Good read. Mature writers aplenty.Originally posted by king007 View Post
IMO, I want a watch with date. I will buy a sports Rolex with date if I am shopping for one. Rolex with date retain value better unlike Panerai with date.
I will go for historic model which what made Panerai today. History, Heritage and meaning of Luminor case
I own a Rolex !
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I never really studied the diff movements tat Panerai has but personally, I just enjoy winding my 183. There is a therapeutic feeling to it every time I wind it...
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Glad to hear you enjoy your watch...that's the reason we pay thousands of dollar for a watch isn't that?Originally posted by phantom628 View PostI never really studied the diff movements tat Panerai has but personally, I just enjoy winding my 183. There is a therapeutic feeling to it every time I wind it...
I am aware that there are many people who buy a very expensive watch without knowing what's inside the watch (apart for it's swiss mechanical maybe), and fully understand that owning a watch is an emotional thing for these people
And I suspect I actually belong to this group of people...with my head trying to justify another purchase before being overcome by my heart...
Watches are like potato chips - You never stop at one
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Buy whatever your heart desires and what YOU think looks good with you and your character.some prefer Historic, some prefer contemporary, some like the Luminors while others prefer the Rads, some like the exclusivity of SEs, some wouldnt mind the ETA based movements while others die die must have manifattura...Originally posted by king007 View Post
For me, I just love Panerais..each and every one of them..
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