how to spot a fake.?

[eight.bone]

i came across a friend's watch couple weeks ago.. he said he paid bout 4.5 for it, a pre-owned pam111. i looked at it w/o him taking it off.. &2things i noticed about it.. 1) e AR coating had a lil bluish tint(wasnt sure was it e light tho). 2) e pin holding the crown guard lever is rounded as compared to e flushed pin on mine. but i still cant be sure is it a rep, a fake or real.. &its a rep or a fake, how do i let him knw tt he's been conned..

[Jinks]

Can always fork out some $$ and get it authenticated at Richemont. Remember - no point being penny wise, pound foolish.

[patricia]

i came across a friend's watch couple weeks ago.. he said he paid bout 4.5 for it, a pre-owned pam111. i looked at it w/o him taking it off.. &2things i noticed about it.. 1) e AR coating had a lil bluish tint(wasnt sure was it e light tho). 2) e pin holding the crown guard lever is rounded as compared to e flushed pin on mine. but i still cant be sure is it a rep, a fake or real.. &its a rep or a fake, how do i let him knw tt he's been conned..

Ask him to send for a check. A piece of mind.

[Paneraii]

Don't quite understand this part "the pin holding the crown guard lever is rounded as compared to e flushed pin on mine"

[eight.bone]

to bro Jinks & sis patricia(i'm assuming u'r female):

if i ask him to send it to RSC & it turns out to be a rep or fake wldnt he get into trouble.?

to bro Paneraii:

there's a pin holding the crown guard & e locking mechinism for e winding&setting crown right.? tt pin if u look frm e top of e watch, its suppose to be flushed(flat) with e crown guard. but my friend's pin is rounded. like some screwheads have a flat head while others have a rounded head..

[KuchingKu]

Ask for your friend to look at the movement behind. That should give more clues. What about all the papers?

I saw a person sitting next to me at a restaurant. Luminor with logo and sub-sec....ah Pam 5. Then, I notice got date also!

[eight.bone]

Ask for your friend to look at the movement behind. That should give more clues. What about all the papers?

I saw a person sitting next to me at a restaurant. Luminor with logo and sub-sec....ah Pam 5. Then, I notice got date also!

what shld he be looking for.? he claims tt he got everything, even e triple box.. but i havent seen them.. hahaha, my friend's 111 looks like e actual 111, painted dial..

[edsonchan]

For some reasons, it seems like you are not comfortable to tell him that it might be a fake.

Why don't you just leave it and leave the matter as it is.

He thinks he got a good deal for an original PAM111. It doesn't hurt you as well....

Imagine you tell him it is a fake, then he go authenticate. If it is real, he say you made him spend $85. If it is fake, he become miserable... It is a lose, lose situation....

[eight.bone]

i dont wana let him knw until i'm almost certain its a fake. i dont wana jump to a conclusion yet. but i wana find out more so i might be able to help him.

just dont wana gd friend to be cheated, i guess..

[Sinner]

if i were u, i rather keep quiet than put the friendship on the line.

[golanheights]

i came across a friend's watch couple weeks ago.. he said he paid bout 4.5 for it, a pre-owned pam111. i looked at it w/o him taking it off.. &2things i noticed about it.. 1) e AR coating had a lil bluish tint(wasnt sure was it e light tho). 2) e pin holding the crown guard lever is rounded as compared to e flushed pin on mine. but i still cant be sure is it a rep, a fake or real.. &its a rep or a fake, how do i let him knw tt he's been conned..

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1. You can't tell from the AR coating.

2. With full boxes and papers?
So far, all the reported fakes in forums come without papers, or/and boxes. This piece wld come with COSC and movement papers.

3. There are well made 111 replicas. No pixs.. it is "Zi shang tan bing".
I have sighted one physically in a shop. But no boxes nor papers.

Look at the sub-dial. And .. if u ever can, park it with an authentic 111, or fiver, and it is obvious. (NB: If u ever can...)

4. If you are looking for one, buying from a reputable shop is quite ok.

5. If all things fail, ask Robert Downey Jr...

[golanheights]

111?....

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1. You can't tell from the AR coating.

2. With full boxes and papers?
So far, all the reported fakes in forums come without papers, or/and boxes. This piece wld come with COSC and movement papers.

3. There are well made 111 replicas. No pixs.. it is "Zi shang tan bing".
I have sighted one physically in a shop. But no boxes nor papers.

Look at the sub-dial. And .. if u ever can, park it with an authentic 111, or fiver, and it is obvious. (NB: If u ever can...)

4. If you are looking for one, buying from a reputable shop is quite ok.

5. If all things fail, ask Robert Downey Jr...

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To add to Point 4:

If you are looking for one, buying from the forum here should also be ok.
There are two sellers selling a 111 now in the house, and I think I have dealt with one. Ok.

[eight.bone]

1. You can't tell from the AR coating.
i was searching online for some info&some mentioned e coating was diff.?idk..i'm still pretty new..

2. With full boxes and papers?
he did mention tt he got them when i asked, &i've come across some tt sell them separately or do have some sort of a packaged price.?

3. There are well made 111 replicas. No pixs.. it is "Zi shang tan bing".
I have sighted one physically in a shop. But no boxes nor papers.
sorry, dont really understand, my chi not gd..

Look at the sub-dial. And .. if u ever can, park it with an authentic 111, or fiver, and it is obvious. (NB: If u ever can...)
what about e sub dial.?

4. If you are looking for one, buying from a reputable shop is quite ok.
noted, not looking for one yet, not so soon at least. haha

5. If all things fail, ask Robert Downey Jr... :

[eight.bone]

to bro sinner:

i guess u'r right..

[Promethus]

Tell him you wish to take some pics on your wrist for fun, then try to take a few other angles as well. The movement and the case back serial.

Chances it might be an older series.

But I've seen fakes in chinasquare with double boxes.

And I also know of people who bought fake and "bomb" real price.