Advise needed on two PAM models :312 and 000

[ahkiat]

Good evening all,

am trying to decide between a 312 or 000

Prefer 000 as loving the simplicity
312 for the 3 days power reserve and mature look.

know nuts about movement . can advise if there a big diff between OP calibre and P9000?

[Carz]

Lots of difference between 000 and 312. Manual (basic movement) vs 3-day Automatic, 312 uses 1950 case, 312's thicker, 312 has date window, 312's Luminor Marina, etc.

Question is whether 312 justifies the delta in $$$? Personal choice between the 2 watches as they are quite different to each other

[roguehog]

000 uses a midified unitas 6497 movement which has a long history. A vwry reliable workhorse, imho.

The 312 utilises pam's in-house p9000 calibre which, imho is just a "better" mousetrap. Bur coa it'a in-house, u pay a bit if premium for it.

The p9000 isn't my favourite movement. It's got the noisiest rotor. There were some issues with my early series 320, which uses the p9001, basically a p9000 with gmt and caseback pri.

Took quite a few visits to pam boutique to rectify aeveral problema, including rotor alignment, spinning rotor but not winding rhe movement, movement fast by up to 5 minutes a week .

Unless you are one of those suckers who feel that in-house MUST be better than go for it. Otherwise, stick to the 000 which appears to be in higher demand. And is powered by a tried and proven movement.

[ahkiat]

sorry for a noob question

anybody can explain manual winding?

meaning i need to wind it few round before wearing then it will move normally for the next 24 hours?

[rayleh]

You will need to fully wind in order for the power to last 56 hours

[roguehog]

sorry for a noob question

anybody can explain manual winding?

meaning i need to wind it few round before wearing then it will move normally for the next 24 hours?

Manual wind requires u to eind using the crown in order to get it moving. Full wind will keep the watch going for between 42-56 hours depending. For base pams, usually 56 hours or more. A generic 6497 usually lasts 42 hours thereabouts.

It's similar to a wind-up toy. Same principle. No matter how u shake there is no rotor to wind the main spring.

[VictorT]

312 for sure

I had radiomir manual winding n sold it.Sometime forgot to wind ,halfway d time stop n nvr bring my phone out sibeh jialat is like my watch just accessory lol...hahhaa..now i owned all automatic watches like pam104,pam359 n others brand auto only.Pam 1950 confirm nicer that luminor case,in my personal opinion lar,young mah hahaha

[wlover]

Manual winding is more historically correct for Pam.

For those who don't care about history, getting an automatic may be more convenient.

Personally I have no preference. Both also can. When I wear my manual usually for a few days in a row I like the feedback when winding it. Feels good. When wearing automatic I just wear and go no need to think.

As a first Pam between 312 and 000 however I'll take the 312 although it's much thicker.

I no feel for the 000. Prefer the 112

[astonchow]

I very much prefer the Pam 000 because it's the most iconic model reflecting the storied legacy of Panerai

[tsetse]

The PAM 0 for sure. But not the current snap in casebacks and the springbars. Get a used one with screw in caseback plus the screw in bars.

[FullHouse]

Pam 000

As usual, Pam 000 is hero and love it for all Pam lovers'

Wear it and you will feel good , IMHO

[ngokyc]

Now, you know the differences between the 2, which would you go for?

I will go for 312 since I've the manual ones.

[Alvinsoo83]

Why not..

I just changed from 312 to 1312 and am totally loving it as it fits much better under long sleeve shirt. Maybe 1312 can be a consideration for you as well.

[SGMagpies]

Interesting. True that it is quite annoying with the watch not being able to fit long sleeves shirt.

[BigBlackClock]

Sorry to hijack but i cant make new threads yet.

Is the new Pam01000 worth it for 4500 with 1 year warranty left.