Pam 606...The New 372...?

[Ryuden]

This year is unlike any other year with Panerai...

Many more models are popping up...while many are close iterations of past models, some are dead copies of existing ones...

Like this new Pam 606...looks familiar?






Some said its SE for Hong Kong Boutique...

All these SEs popping up is in line with their Watch & Wonders 2014 event in Hong Kong.

[Ryuden]

Green lume...unlike the ecru ones on the 372...

[Ryuden]

Hong Kong Special Edition....







p.s. all pics are not mine. Credit to their owners.

[Ender]

372 anytime!

Taking into account all their models todate, is there anything else in their heritage that they have not milked?

To me, Panerai is all about its look.
Anyone knows what their design process is like?
I cannot decide if the Pam design team has it good or bad?

Bad - imagine every year, you have to come up with 'new' designs but such 'new' designs cannot stray too far away from their representative 369 base/cali/marina dial configuration, otherwise you have the Pam death cult baying for your blood. At the same time, you will have the cynical anti-Pam mob mocking the 'new' pieces as repeats of previous releases but at a greater price. Of course, this problem is not limited to only Panerai and apply to other watch brands eg AP and their ROO.

Good - for each 'new' watch, they could well kickstart the process by filling up a prescribed in-house design checklist with columns for (1) size (52,47,45,44 or 40), (2) case (1950, luminor, radiomir etc), (3) dial configuration (base, cali, marina etc), (4) material (SS, PVD/DLC, Ceramic, Gold, Platinum, Bronze etc),(5) movement (ETA (??), P300, P900 etc), (6) lume (fake patina?) and finally (7) options (insert 'Marina Militaire', '8 Giorno Brevetto', 'Automatic', and/or '3', '5', '7', '8' or '10' days' etc).
Tick, tick, tick, and feed the result into their database and see if it was already released or too similar to previous releases, and then do the necessary.

Back to topic - hmmmm, here's hoping that Singapore gets its own piece!
A 44mm 372 will be a nice addition to my present 190.

Ender

[toffeesthings]

Thanks for the update Bro Ryuden and thanks to Bro Ender for the hilarious post!

[Ryuden]

Well Ender, I don't think they have squeezed everything in their heritage yet.

The combo possibilities are endless. Just by doing a very minor change warrant for a new model number, wonder how many digits of model number will it be by then. I am afraid that once their ideas are exhausted, just by changing straps, they will give it a new model number too.

I guess there's a reason why very Pam comes with 5 digits model number including the zeroes at the front. Exp. Pam 00372. Maybe by 10-20 years to come, Panerai model numbers will be like Pam 78910.

Imagine when there's a Get-together gathering.

A : "Wow! That is a nice Pam. What model is that?"
B : "Oh. Its a...a....Pam 78910...Is yours Pam 56789?"
A : "Oh, this?...This is Pam 111."
B : "Wow. Really? They all look the same."
A : " Ya...that's what my wife has been trying to tell me."
B : "Come, let's look around if we can see the other 78799 models around here."

[Ryuden]

To me, Panerai is all about its look.
Anyone knows what their design process is like?
I cannot decide if the Pam design team has it good or bad?

Don't really bothered by their design team or how their design process is like. Just want them to be the way they were 5-10 years ago which is impossible and will never happen as they are now catering to bigger wider market and its all about cashing in the profits. Thus the reason why I bother not with it.

But good and bad...more to the consumers.


BAD - Some Ristis sworn to the brands are now fed up with the Panerai design team as they produce models after models of past similar ones and worst, copies of Special Editions. And when Panerai says they won't produce this model anymore means they won't produce it as exact copies but with some minor changes which still looks similar as the one they discontinued.

How does this effect the consumers? Resell price. Reason why back then Panerai has good resell value was because the Ristis community was the one that moves the market. They are the ones that are willing to pay high prices for SEs and collectables discontinued models. And this was also because Panerai was producing watches like how they are suppose to be producing, limited.

With more and more similar looking ones, and the bigger wider market where a lot of "newbies" getting into the Panerai craze, the so called "loyal fans" of Panerai are getting less interested in obtaining certain "collectables" models or SEs with a fear of Panerai reproducing it as another similar model in the future thus effecting its "exclusiveness" and value.


GOOD - Cant get the SEs you wanted? Fret not, it will be produce again...soon.

With many models churning out from Panerai factory, consumers are now spoilt with choices. There are close to 1000 models to choose from! From the Pre V to the T dials to the Eta models and now In house. From entry level of about $7,000 to the $100,000 higher models. There's enough Pams to go around for everyone! And how will Resell value be effected by this?

Why would someone wants to pay $15,000 for an old T dial Pam with basic eta movement when now they can get 8 days gmt inhouse movement Pam for that price? Or for $10,000 , I now have 9 different Pams to choose from compared to last time of maybe 3 models?

hoping that Singapore gets its own piece!
A 44mm 372 will be a nice addition to my present 190.

Maybe....?

But only after releasing it for SIHH 2015 and then re-releasing it as Singapore SE with the engraving "Singapore" on the crown lever.

Thanks for dropping by Bro.

[Ryuden]

Thanks for the update Bro Ryuden

Anytime brother. Thanks for dropping by.

[wlover]

I'll grab a 44mm version of 372 in a heartbeat if OP comes up with one...

[ngokyc]

I'll grab a 44mm version of 372 in a heartbeat if OP comes up with one...

Second that. In fact nearly went for the 390.....

[Ender]

Don't really bothered by their design team or how their design process is like. Just want them to be the way they were 5-10 years ago which is impossible and will never happen as they are now catering to bigger wider market and its all about cashing in the profits. Thus the reason why I bother not with it.
But good and bad...more to the consumers.
BAD - Some Ristis sworn to the brands are now fed up with the Panerai design team as they produce models after models of past similar ones and worst, copies of Special Editions. And when Panerai says they won't produce this model anymore means they won't produce it as exact copies but with some minor changes which still looks similar as the one they discontinued.
How does this effect the consumers? Resell price. Reason why back then Panerai has good resell value was because the Ristis community was the one that moves the market. They are the ones that are willing to pay high prices for SEs and collectables discontinued models. And this was also because Panerai was producing watches like how they are suppose to be producing, limited.
With more and more similar looking ones, and the bigger wider market where a lot of "newbies" getting into the Panerai craze, the so called "loyal fans" of Panerai are getting less interested in obtaining certain "collectables" models or SEs with a fear of Panerai reproducing it as another similar model in the future thus effecting its "exclusiveness" and value.

GOOD - Cant get the SEs you wanted? Fret not, it will be produce again...soon.
With many models churning out from Panerai factory, consumers are now spoilt with choices. There are close to 1000 models to choose from! From the Pre V to the T dials to the Eta models and now In house. From entry level of about $7,000 to the $100,000 higher models. There's enough Pams to go around for everyone! And how will Resell value be effected by this?
Why would someone wants to pay $15,000 for an old T dial Pam with basic eta movement when now they can get 8 days gmt inhouse movement Pam for that price? Or for $10,000 , I now have 9 different Pams to choose from compared to last time of maybe 3 models?
Maybe....?
But only after releasing it for SIHH 2015 and then re-releasing it as Singapore SE with the engraving "Singapore" on the crown lever.
Thanks for dropping by Bro.

Yeah, plenty of collectors were stung by Richmont releasing similar pieces to supposedly SE/limited releases.
For those who paid premium thinking they were getting an exclusive piece to wear, that must have hurt eg 232, 249, 127, 217 etc.
For those looking to flip... orbigood!

44mm 372 Singapore edition - sigh, you are probably right. Only thing you left out is that it would probably be around S$5-S$10k more than a regular 372.

[Saggice]

Im hoping to see this PAM606 on the actual watch itself... looks sibei chio!

[PamDino]

I would still choose a T with a ETA movement over a L 8-days or whatever number of days in-house movement at the same price. The T aura is simply irresistable.

[Ryuden]

I would still choose a T with a ETA movement over a L 8-days or whatever number of days in-house movement at the same price. The T aura is simply irresistable.

Second that bro...if ony the price dips even much lower...that could be a game changer...

[PamDino]

At the same price, anytime is a T for me