Seeking Advice : iTrader system

[admin]

Users can now leave feedback for both buyers/sellers after there is a transaction...

Your feedbacks can be found on the top right corner of all your posts (juz below your total number of posts) and also the bottom right corner.

Sellers can also leave negative feed back if buyer ask to reserve and did not complete the transaction with evidence as in PM or Quote .

[wolfeyes1974]

Sellers can also leave negative feed back if buyer ask to reserve and did not complete the transaction with evidence as in PM or Quote .

can we give negative feedback for those ask for quotation (although they didn't say they want to buy or not)...then go MIA..seller make efforts to contact them several times but they simply have no courtesy to even say want or not? just went dead...poof!!

[marineguy8888]

can we give negative feedback for those ask for quotation (although they didn't say they want to buy or not)...then go MIA..seller make efforts to contact them several times but they simply have no courtesy to even say want or not? just went dead...poof!!

We think all sellers must be prepared for potential buyers to ask for prices, negotiate and bargain as long as it's done fairly and not excessively.

We take it that if the potential buyer doesn't make an effort to contact seller about the item, then he/she is not keen in it. And buyer will move on to offer to other potential buyers .

Having said that, when the buye r has confirmed that he/she wants the item, the buyer should make sure seller gets it .

We are further fine tuning the system and will be announced when decided .

[Oceanklassik]

Reference Check Thread

Hi,

I was wondering if we can create it for the benefit of buyer and seller. Something similar to paneristi.com where buyers often make enquiries on a seller for reputation whatsoever. May be in the Garage Sales Thread?

Thank you.

[seiko.citizen]

i believe that is the "iTrader" function.

[Darkangel]

We already have mah...

Or you want a whole section on Good/Bad sellers

[louie]

haha,i asked this b4 sometime bk..

[Dreams Of My Father]

Botched/Good Deals Section

I suggest to have a "Botched/Good Deals" Section to allow WIS to voice their experience and let others to learn.

Simple rule(s) should apply to keep the harmony of the Forum:

1. No specific names for individuals or companies. Description of locale and building premises, type of watch, price, permissible. If rule broken, the whole thread is closed.

2. This section is not a resolution centre. The transaction between buyer and seller is private and therefore, do NOT have the expectation that Mods are "Judges".

3. To some extend, some other forums have a "blacklist" sticky - but I think we do not have that here in SG-ROC yet.

This will compliment the existing iTrader system.

[benhur]

no use 1 la. censorship strong here. say wrong thinks got wack. say correct thinks also wack. here, must say beauty things, pple like to hear 1.

[triton]

your suggestion is feasible. however there are some considerations

1) what guidelines do you proposed so that it will not end up into a bashing session?

2) there is always other people who will want to put their comments that will escalate the situation?

3) i take it that it is applicable to both sellers and buyers.
since there will be sellers who has grouses against buyers?

if no specific individual, then users are always allowed to post a thread. something like 6694 watch buying experience like i did. if it does not state individual then it will not complement the iTrader system

[Dreams Of My Father]

Hi Triton


Thanks for your feedback. I will think about what you have mentioned and see if I can come up with something that is more constructive to the SG-ROC community and improve the buying and selling experience.


Cheers!

[R-oyster]

The current rating system is in my view the most appropriate.

It provides a good snapshot of the trading record of specific individuals. The feedbacks on trades captured in a specific thread as this can serve to supplement or even augment the rating system.

However the current rating system is only good if there is an audacity to give honest feedback on a transaction that has gone not so well. At it is, everyone seems to have only perfect scores. There are of course consequences for this boldness, namely endless exchanges to defend oneself or justify oneself. Moderators will have a delicate task. To close a thread when the arguments get badly heated curtails discussion which in turn prevents facts from unfolding. To allow a thread to run without intervention may be an invitation to anarchy. So, one option, is to allow a specific time
frame to ventilate, say 48 hours, and after that no more.

Moreover, I feel moderators should not be made to reverse a rating. They are not party to the transactions. They may do so only if a rating that has been given is obviously not trade related or crude.

[kenkelvin]

your suggestion is feasible. however there are some considerations

1) what guidelines do you proposed so that it will not end up into a bashing session?

2) there is always other people who will want to put their comments that will escalate the situation?

3) i take it that it is applicable to both sellers and buyers.
since there will be sellers who has grouses against buyers?

if no specific individual, then users are always allowed to post a thread. something like 6694 watch buying experience like i did. if it does not state individual then it will not complement the iTrader system

Bro i agree with u as what i said earlier, opening a thread to explain is good but there will many ppl who will wanna add comments, be it of real concern or just to add fuel to fire. so only the involved parties can input comments and moderators to close thread if the thread is getting out of hand. example (vulgarity, unrelated to topic) and i also agree with bro oyster that moderators should not change ratings cause they may not know the true story, but if found out no trade has taken place, moderators can change rating, like in my case that happened long ago because only they have the power to do so and rightfully so.

[triton]

Seeiking Advice : iTrader system

i have receive feedback from several members on iTrader system. sg-roc does acknowledge that the system does have flaws.

a deal is not transacted, a buyer/seller leaves a negative remark on seller/buyer. this system does not seem fair.

solution: all iTrader feedback will require user to put in the url of the link of the sales threads. it will be moderated. a wrong link will warrant NO feedback. why? this is to counter buyer leaving negative feedback prior to transaction

sg-roc would like to hear from you if you have any suggestions to improve on the system

[KuchingKu]

If you ask me.....

My suggestion is that the system should only allow good feedback or positives.
If a transaction go sour, then any party can raise it up in a separate thread.

So, everyone only gives a good feedback or no feedback. Happy give good. Not happy, don't give. Or others just don't bother.

Unless I am a dealer or very regular seller, this function does not tell me much whether I am a buyer or seller cos most deal are local face to face deals.

Overseas deals then maybe more important for feedback.