Compulsory Actual Photo for Every Watch Sale Post

[ErnieH.]

triton, I guess if a seller wants to sell something in the internet, he/she should learn how to sell in the internet... my 2 cents...

Excellent post and point made.

[triton]

rules and regulations can be tweaked. i think most ppl would be more cautious about something above 500. would take this point into consideration as well.

as for BNIB and LNIB, it is true. condition does play a part. however, the main rationale about this posting of photo is to deter scammers, etc.

your point about time wasting is relevant.

kindly vote pls. thanks.

1) If a seller wishes to sell off a $30 casio watch, and has no wish to post photos? Then what? Can't post?

2) If a seller posts a "BNIB" item, the item should be as described, "BNIB". Photos would do no justice to falsify that claim.(A "LNIB" could pass off as a "BNIB" in a photo.)

End of the day, all of us would still want a "no obligations" viewing of the item, before handing our hard earned cash over.

But, I am FOR this idea, to prevent false claims, scammers, price manipulators, photo stealers & most importantly...wasting our precious time.

This is a great idea, to keep SG-ROC a safe place to buy & sell.

But it still boils down to the moderators, to enforce & include it in the "RULES and REGULATIONS"

just my 2 cents

[triton]

i agree. i raise the point because there are 2 ends of a spectrum to consider. the idea is to generate feedback from this forum community so that rules and regulations can be tweaked. trying not to disadvantage sellers.

triton, I guess if a seller wants to sell something in the internet, he/she should learn how to sell in the internet... my 2 cents...

Excellent post and point made.

[teo]

Hi everyone, I think a photo of the watch with your nickname written on a piece of paper place next to it. This will prevent people from manipulating the price. A photo of the watch without nickname can be cut and paste from any website. So I prefer a photo of the watch with nickname written next to it pls. Nickname is THE NAME YOU USE in the forum.

[PamDino]

This thread that Dino started, is very interesting and is very relevant. We are all afraid of scammers, price manipulators, false claims & time wasters.

Genuine sellers, should bother to post at least one picture.

But...just a few points to ponder on,

1) If a seller wishes to sell off a $30 casio watch, and has no wish to post photos? Then what? Can't post?

2) If a seller posts a "BNIB" item, the item should be as described, "BNIB". Photos would do no justice to falsify that claim.(A "LNIB" could pass off as a "BNIB" in a photo.)

End of the day, all of us would still want a "no obligations" viewing of the item, before handing our hard earned cash over.

But, I am FOR this idea, to prevent false claims, scammers, price manipulators, photo stealers & most importantly...wasting our precious time.

This is a great idea, to keep SG-ROC a safe place to buy & sell.

But it still boils down to the moderators, to enforce & include it in the "RULES and REGULATIONS"

just my 2 cents

I think this site should not be bothered if the watch is $30, $3000 or $30000. If the seller wants to post a watch for sale in this site, then rules must be obeyed. Simple as that & no 2 ways about it.

Whether it's BNIB or LNIB, by posting a photo of the actual, the public would at least knows that the seller genuinely has the watch & not "empty" selling. This would deter the potential price manipulators.

@ Bro Feilong: Of course, the seller can post more photo of different angles of the watch to show the conditions of the watch. It may also saves you the trouble of responsing to different potential buyers by sending photos to them individually. Post all the photos that you have at one go.

Only if you are satisfied with the conditions of the watch (via the description & photos) & the price, then a face-to-face viewing would be meaningful.

I also started off not knowing how to upload photos & I guess it's not too difficult to learn

Dino

[wolfeyes1974]

i have spoken to him over lunch yesterday.

the rationale behind this suggestion is to weed out potential scammer who goes uses another seller picture to seller A and bargain for a low price and then post a new thread to sell the same watch. by 'forcing' a picture of actual watch. if this seller uses someone's else watch picture, it may be spotted quickly by fellow members. this is practised by one other watch forum.

another rationale is to prevent a potential buyer by registering a new nick to sell a watch he/she wants to buy. then post it as sold with a below average selling price. then the buyer goes to a seller and ask for a much lower price citing that 'hey, so-and-so' sold it @ that price leh.'

however, there is another concern i like to address. what if a genuine seller got no camera to take picture?

while this is not a foolproof plan, i agree it's pretty good to prevent empty sale.

if they want to sell an item..they find a way to take the photos....we cannot take into consideration so many possibilities...nowadays phones also can take photos (altho some may not be of high resolution)

[ErnieH.]

I think this site should not be bothered if the watch is $30, $3000 or $30000. If the seller wants to post a watch for sale in this site, then rules must be obeyed. Simple as that & no 2 ways about it.

Whether it's BNIB or LNIB, by posting a photo of the actual, the public would at least knows that the seller genuinely has the watch & not "empty" selling. This would deter the potential price manipulators.

@ Bro Feilong: Of course, the seller can post more photo of different angles of the watch to show the conditions of the watch. It may also saves you the trouble of responsing to different potential buyers by sending photos to them individually. Post all the photos that you have at one go.

Only if you are satisfied with the conditions of the watch (via the description & photos) & the price, then a face-to-face viewing would be meaningful.

I also started off not knowing how to upload photos & I guess it's not too difficult to learn

Dino

Good point Dino, I have already run in to one "empty" seller last week, watch is in HK and he is advertising it, said once someone commited he would bring it down and not before.

[PamDino]

while this is not a foolproof plan, i agree it's pretty good to prevent empty sale.

if they want to sell an item..they find a way to take the photos....we cannot take into consideration so many possibilities...nowadays phones also can take photos (altho some may not be of high resolution)

I guess it's never going to be foolproof. But, at least, we are trying to improve the system.

Whether the photo is high resolution or poorly taken, it's the seller's choice because a good photo speaks a thousand words.

Dino

[golanheights]

Second that....

Hi Guys,

Just thinking aloud.

What do you guys make of if every sale post for watch requires at least a photo of the actual watch in question? Not just any photo which you can always copy & paste from the brand's official website. But, the actual photo of the watch that you are putting it up for sale?

This could perhaps, stop some guys from being scammed or putting up an "empty" sale to manipulate the price.

Your inputs? Hope to make trading here, a better & safer place. Thanks.

Cheers
Dino

Good idea, bro. I second that.

[KuchingKu]

It's a good idea but can make the uploading of pictures easier? Some forum can just load pictures straight from computer.

I tried a few times here, like host in flickr but still picture cannot come out. Maybe my IT skill very low.

[seiko.citizen]

you can do it here too, but you are limited by size. then we will have threads "how come the image soo small?".

End of the day, host on a server like photobucket; flickr or similar, and give us the link.

[ohlins]

It's a good idea but can make the uploading of pictures easier? Some forum can just load pictures straight from computer.

I tried a few times here, like host in flickr but still picture cannot come out. Maybe my IT skill very low.

check our FAQ section for step by step instructions to post pics....

[Ender]

Hi Guys,
Just thinking aloud.
What do you guys make of if every sale post for watch requires at least a photo of the actual watch in question? Not just any photo which you can always copy & paste from the brand's official website. But, the actual photo of the watch that you are putting it up for sale?
This could perhaps, stop some guys from being scammed or putting up an "empty" sale to manipulate the price.
Your inputs? Hope to make trading here, a better & safer place. Thanks.
Cheers
Dino

Fwah! You gave me heart-attack!
Somehow I read your post as photo of 'seller'. Like that I no need to sell anything on sg-roc liao, all potential buyer run far far away.
Photo of watch is a good idea. Definitely help to minimise scammers/ price manipulators.

Ender

[PamDino]

So, what's the final decision after the vote?

Has the team of Moderators arrived at the verdict?

Dino

[kenkelvin]

i support the idea of having actual photos of the watch the person is selling. last time i aslo dono how to take pic and post. but ppl here will teach u, so no worries no camera nvm, but nowadays all hp got camera too.