Update on the finding of my omega speedmaster mark 2

[Oceanklassik]

TS,

Pls refrain from creating multiple threads all over the forum. I have merged three same threads so far and hope not to have to do it further.

Tx.

[Mystic_moon69]

Indeed, we do need to be careful in such transactions. Thanks for sharing Jamy.

[JAMYLIM]

Hi! Thanks for your kind advise but unfortunately this stupid young man who consider himself to be a teacher flatly refuses to resolve the issue and now he said "his guarantee also got terms". I am contemplating legal action against him as I have all sms as evident of the problem found within 16 hours after it was handed to me and his flat denial. Any better suggestion? Thanks.

[JAMYLIM]

Thanks Heng for your kind advise. Presently I am weighing my option. He like to screw up his own future I will see to it that he own up to his responsibility. Even my purchases from Ebay for so many of my watches has never been this way. Beware of him - he goes by the "crippy" in this forum and goes by his name Paul Lim but not sure whether is this his real name. May the watch he traded from me in such a manner shorten his time and bring much unhappiness to him...I told him to sleep well with it.

[JAMYLIM]

Hi bro, thanks for your advise...I hope genuine honest people on this forum will stay alert against this person who goes by the name "crippy" on this forum and goes by his name "Paul LIM" but not sure whether is this his real name.

Lets hope my watch he traded for under such circumstances will bring much unhappiness to him. To say that he believe and worship a higher being is beyond my imagination when he flatly refuses all options to resolve this issue. Thanks

[Rolex01]

Hi! Thanks for your kind advise but unfortunately this stupid young man who consider himself to be a teacher flatly refuses to resolve the issue and now he said "his guarantee also got terms". I am contemplating legal action against him as I have all sms as evident of the problem found within 16 hours after it was handed to me and his flat denial. Any better suggestion? Thanks.

If you want to teach him a lesson and $$$ is not an issue to you, engage a lawyer and get your lawyer to trace him using his HP number provided the HP number he used is registered under his name and not by some "bangala" or unregistered hi-card which are easily available for purchase.

[JAMYLIM]

Bro, thanks for your advise...
I'm sure his kids will learn a thing or two about such behaviour from him. A genuine person will try to resolve the issue and I am not even asking him to take back the watch and return the one I traded for. I gave him chance to either take it back and try it out for a week to see for himself the problem or simply to just have it repair and return it back to me but he simply refuses.
If I plan to take further action it will be a police report followed by legal action against him and I want to make sure I wear him out since he doesnt want to take responsibility for such matter which could have been easily resolve. Thanks again.

[Rolex01]

Bro, thanks for your advise...
I'm sure his kids will learn a thing or two about such behaviour from him. A genuine person will try to resolve the issue and I am not even asking him to take back the watch and return the one I traded for. I gave him chance to either take it back and try it out for a week to see for himself the problem or simply to just have it repair and return it back to me but he simply refuses.
If I plan to take further action it will be a police report followed by legal action against him and I want to make sure I wear him out since he doesnt want to take responsibility for such matter which could have been easily resolve. Thanks again.

Based on experience, I highly doubt our SPF will do anything about it. Importantly, if he intended to cheat his way out; he would have give you a false name and even be using a unregistered hi-card which makes it impossible to trace him.

Another way is to seek help from the admin from this forum to release that fellow IP address, having said that, he may be using some spy firm software to hide his actual IP address as well.

good luck!

[Rolex116613]

I think you better bring your watch to service.
They can advise you better on what is the problem of your watch.
Sometimes it is just because of magnet that is placed near the watch.
Keep the receipt for evidence but I don‘t think case or the police will do anything because it is not a fake.
Good private dealers won‘t do such things, I believe the seller you faced is the user, he might be doing it for one time case, it is really not worth it to spoil their own reputation.

[Mille]

The perpetrator involved, im sure you are reading this thread.

Please get the watch to full functional condition at least.

I have my own experience with the culprit. Hope that you will come clean and resolve this.

[chiu_peow]

I will be the devil's advocate here.

I dont think everyone should point the finger @ the seller. Who knows if the buyer actually placed the watch next to some magnetic devices or other electrical devices or other objects which may have cause the watch to 'malfunction'.

I don't believe giving a negative rating to the seller, as neither of us (only seller) knows if the watch is behaving abnormally prior to the sale.

I always believe that it is the buyer's responsibility to ensure that the watch received in good condition because seller can claim that the watch is in this or that condition. If I am a buyer, I would ask the seller to meet me @ a watch technician of my choice on the condition that I will buy the watch as per stated in the thread.

[polarinda]

Its not about the watch, its about how one handles a.dispute when problem arises. To flat out deny to even look at the watch in question is poor form of the seller. Stop finding excuses when it comes to bad sellers.
Even if the watch is magnitised, for goodness sake, meet the buyer and resolve it. It shows what kind of person one is by the way they act.

Simple as that.

[polarinda]

Let me relate this true story to you.
Our founder Darkangel once sold me a divers watch (not cheap).
The watch was not water proof. Fogged up under tap water. The next day, he refunded me in full. No questions asked.

A bad seller would have switched off his h/p after your first call of complaint.

[Rolex116613]

Let me relate this true story to you.
Our founder Darkangel once sold me a divers watch (not cheap).
The watch was not water proof. Fogged up under tap water. The next day, he refunded me in full. No questions asked.

A bad seller would have switched off his h/p after your first call of complaint.

That is what sellers should do.

[Crippy]

Hi all

This thread has come to my attention, and I feel that I should not be silent about this. I am Paul Lim (real name), my contact number is 91291285. This matter has certainly brought a lot of unhappiness not only to Jamy, but to me as well. I have been selling and buying on this forum since 2010. I believe I should address this issue.

Like some bros who responded in this thread, the question of whether the watch was magnetized came up a couple of times. I know it is a matter of his words against mine. However, since it has come to this, I feel a responsibility to address it. When the watch was in my possession, I did not encounter any of the problems described by Jamy. This has led me to believe that the faults described by Jamy regarding the watch happened after it left my hands, however brief it was.

In terms of options to resolve this issue, Jamy has insisted that I have traded with him a faulty watch (and that I knew it was faulty before the trade happened), to which I have refuted. Some of you may be wondering why I 'flatly denied' (in Jamy's words) any form of resolution to this conflict. The truth of the matter is that, I am simply at a loss as to how I should respond to his requests when they all implied that I knew the watch was faulty and I lied about it.

I have also never failed to respond to his smses and have never shied away from this issue. In this case, I actually feel victimized. My perception then was that, as a seller, if the product is damaged after leaving the hands of the seller, it is not fair that the seller should be held responsible.

I'm greatly saddened that Jamy, from his interpretation of the events that have transpired, has questioned my religion, profession and my future generation on sms as well as in this thread. This has caused me great anguish and pain. To be honest, in my sms responses to him, I thought this matter had ended, only to be very disturbed by seeing his threats and derogatory statements made against me time and again. But I'm prepared to let go, and put all these unwarranted attacks on my integrity behind me, because failing which, I cannot be true to my faith.

Jamy, I think this case has been blown out of proportions. This does not need to get any worse. Ok, now that our different perceptions have been made clear, and i suppose the only right thing for us to do is to agree to disagree on our perception on these events that have transpired. Now that we have cleared the air, I hope we can just resolve this peacefully. I'm sure both of us can resolve this matter in a dignified and amicable manner. Please let me know when you are available to meet up to resolve this issue in a win-win situation.

Mods, I am sorry if this has caused any disruptions.