Update on the finding of my omega speedmaster mark 2

[Rolex01]

I got a vintage rolex date just half gold with diamonds, all the parts are from rolex, but every single part is not from the original watch.
Watch is working fine but I will never sell if I dont state the real condition of the watch (inclusive of the mechanism and bracelet and dial and hands).
I don‘t think is fair if I sell it as LNIB Rolex Datejust model XXXXX.

My advice is goto JW watch and let them quote you, at least they won‘t carrot head chop you.

And if you keep the watch and later intend to sell, wat are u going to tell your buyer?
All original parts and watch working fine?
If you sell it as watch not original parts who will buy???

Yes, you have hit the subject with the nail.

If you don't intend to sell it forever, you can ignore the non-original parts.

But the real problem is even yourself may not know the answer and you may not want to sell at this point in time, but what if for whatever reason you have loss interests in this watch and want to sell it and fund another watch.

One's never say Never to never....future, all of us don't know any may regret the decision make today.

[JAMYLIM]

Hi. Seriously even before you talk about me selling it the next time I was already entertaining the thought of crushing it or just simply give it away. If I want to keep it a secret about the findings I guess I will not even put it on this forum and made it known and probably try to carry out a similar crippy stunt on some unspected victim.
But will I want to do something against another being using the same ploy that I was against? Fortunately I wouldnt stoop that low and have my reputation turnish.
If I still want to keep the watch I will just get it running - never mind about those "unoriginal" parts. Whats the point of having original parts and not being able to tell the time. Its like a human with all original parts, beautiful on the outside but corrupt on the inside and have no second thought of their own actions towards others. Thks

[Rolex01]

Buying high end watches is all about the "feel good" feeling.

Watch and human are very different, I pay this type of price, of course i would expect the watch and all it parts to be original.

So what's the difference if I go buy a fake watch which uses Asian Jewel movement and able to tell the same accurate time and a original watch with partial components of movement and parts used are non-original.

Unless you got this watch at great discounts, and willing to live with it.

One may be $100.00 but the other one may be few thousands.

Paying these type of price you have every single reason to expect the watch and all parts to be in original condition be it its rusty, but still original.

So what's the cost for you to restore back those parts to original? 1200?
If so, its way over-priced for this vintage. Is this vintage limited edition?
I am not familiar with omega hence unable to advise on that.

[Rolex01]

I believe some people buy vintage watches for value.

What will happen to the value of the vintage where some part of the parts are not original?

[JAMYLIM]

Bro,

I really dont mind about the rust lah and that is why I didnt want to absorb too much when the repairer go blarring away about this and that...I means yes it is a vintage and If I really want a perfect watch I might as well send it for a major overhauland clean up,etc.
You know the thing is that this chap have the cheek to tell mehe didnt open the cover to look inside and yet in his forum when he put the watch for sale he stated "picture of actual watch added"...further on he stated "chrono functions all still working and keeping time well. Watch condition is very good". NOW HERE'S THE BEST PART...HE STATE : "Last picture taken to show you the beautiful 861 Omega movement inside the watch". This afternoon he told me he has never open the watch before and yet he can display it in his sales picture. Its the same thing as he gave a guarantee and later add in his terms after the damaged is reported. I dont need to say more about such people but you be the judge.

[JAMYLIM]

Bro, you are right...buying a watch is about the good feeling and I doubt this watch will ever give me that cos it reminded too much of some creep but at the same time I wont be able to understand how some creep can go ahead and enjoy the other watch he traded for under such circumstances its really beyond me.

[polarinda]

JW WILL get it running for u Jamy. No fret. This watch will remind you of so many valuable lessons in life that you should wear it in good health.

[JAMYLIM]

Bro,, thks. Hopefully.

[Mille]

keep us updated

[JAMYLIM]

dont anyone have something nice to say to the seller?

[wolfeyes1974]

I believe some people buy vintage watches for value.

What will happen to the value of the vintage where some part of the parts are not original?

If it's vintage, all the more the owner should send to authorised servce centre..at least there's a service guarantee that can be passed to the new owner to have an ease of mind.

i won't pay a single cent for a frankenstein watch...it's no value compared to vintage watches with original parts

[Mille]

since its a vintage/preown/used watch, we shouldnt touch about the topic of condition. so we will leave that out

1. Since there are non original parts in the watch, then the watch should be replaced with original parts.
2. Now that the watch loses time after purchase, what was it caused by? was it the seller's fault or was it the buyer's fault? Did the watch lose time before purchase or after purchase?

Watches that lose alot of time are not functional.

1. the fault cannot be attributed to buyer, but to the seller
2. the fault could lie with either one of them, and if what jamy says is true, its the seller's fault.
If not, its the buyer's fault - something could have happened along the way. Both of them have to sort out to see if the fault was present before or after the watch purchase.


once 1 and 2 is figured out, they should proceed to either do the repair(once liability is determined), or the buyer should get a refund.


of course, jamy would have an advantage since the lemon law provides for any future recourse, but do be reasonably fair to the seller as well as far as possible - did anything happen to it under your care?.

Then again, conditon aside, all watches sold in garage are always sold as fully functional(unless otherwise stated) and fully original - that is always the understanding between seller and buyer.

[Rolex01]

Lemon law only applies to biz to consumers.

Biz to biz not covered
Individual to another individual not covered.

[JAMYLIM]

Actually what I really dont like about this Crippy is his disowning responsibility and not being gentlemen on the verbal guarantee he gave me. You can see that he is never true to his words. He only came up with the terms after the problem is found and while he shown on his sale forum the inside beautiful Omega movement in his sale pitch and yesterday he can tell me he didnt open the watch before. So all along he is misrepresenting something he is trying to sell. So we can all see how he try to get away with words. That is what I dislike about people like him so much so I dont even want his money. For some people reputation does comes cheap.

[JAMYLIM]

Another thing is if I'm not wrong he could have purchase this watch in August this year and that is why he need to get rid of it...probably after he found something wrong with it. I trace his past purchase and found that he purchase a Speedmaster in August.
Hope everyone know him by now and to be extra caution if you guys ever want to deal with someone who give you word of guarantee and days after that he tell you "guarantee also got terms"... Really a smart guy.