I found this advertisement this guy is just rude...

[Fred_Tan]

cedric is a regular?

This guy is a regular here and almost every forum that sells/buy watches.

If you visit the Pam thread enough, you will get to read lots of interesting things about him. Ops...nowadays he is more active in vintage Rolex forums as he is making his big bucks there.

I check & searched all forum and only found less than 10 post.
Cedric is definitely not a regular in any forum.

You must be mistaken as always

[Fred_Tan]

U referring to me Fred Tan

A different name is used by buyer. Sure it's the infamous person in this forum? Anyway, a few replies to his ad with " good luck ;-) " with his search. Even if I have such a watch, I wouldn't bothered selling to such a flipping Loser. Also, he's giving us Asians a bad name by his posting.

Common, just be real & say so.
No need to be hush-hush.

I'm not

[Fred_Tan]

Wow, u r getting worried eh?

Either multi-nick or this guy is inspired by the writing style.
My S2 team tells me haha.
A loser that gives Singaporean a lousy name...now mocked by the world.
What to flip also need more hardwork and intelligence lah.

Worried that this new "NO 4, 5, 6, & 9" will jeapardize ur prized collection is it?
Or u are worried cos u r just a mole for traders who will find this new trend that I started killing ur business?

Common, who's hiding here?
Me or u?

[Fred_Tan]

Pls use ur memory & search

The funniest of funny is he even sell it here (in this very forum) Maybe he just didn't know there is such a thing as search function or memory.

What is e funniest of e funny.
Again I wanna ask.
Me or u?

Why e interest to attack me?
It seem's like e only post u made here are attack against me or Cedric, Lim, Fried Wan Tan or Rusell, Teo, Chong or whatever that u wanna link to me.

Tell me u r not a mole.
I think the moderator should check your IP address.
It could be coming from grey traders shop in shopping complex....

[Keith8896]

Dun be a coward.
Say it right here with names.

I think the moderator should check your IP address.
It could be coming from grey traders shop in shopping complex....

[Ender]

Sorry Guys but this guy seems to know ALL according to his advertisement but he does not list the 202/A as a PVD nor does anyone here think they can meet all of this boy's requirements and all the proof he asks for? I own a 201/A and I know I cannot and I showed the ad to a famous PAM dealer in Switzerland and he said the guy seems to be very young and not insecure of purchasing anythin, of course this was his personal opinion.
WTB: Any Pre-Vendome PAMs
June 5 2010 at 7:34 AM
from IP address 203.118.41.106

Looking for one for the the following Pre-Vendome PAMs:
5218-201/A 1993 "Logo" Luminor
5218-201/A Slytech Submersible
5218-202/A 1993 Marina Militare
5218-203/A 1994 PVD Luminor Marina
5218-207/A 1996 Slytech Daylight
5218-209
5218-210
5218-218/A 1996 Black Seal
5218-301/A 1993 Mare Nostrum
5218-302 1995 Slytech Mare Nostrum
5218-304 1995 Slytech Mare Nostrum

Case, Crown, Lever, Crown Bridge, Caseback & Bezel MUST be unpolished.
No "4", "5", "6" & "9" in the millesimation.
Singapore face-2-face deal only.
Pics & best price please.

U must know the all service/repair history since e day e watch is outta Firenze.
And, pls don't use excuse that you got this watch from someone else & don't know what happened to this watch previously.
I will not buy any watch without ownership history & u have to prove it with reference, post in forum, receipts & invoices.

Singapore/HK/Indon/Msia grey-dealers with shops in town who polished ur watches and sell them as LNIB, Excelent & Minty and claim otherwise or feign ignorance of what actually happened to e watch when it's under previous owership hand and sell by guise of "as it is consignment", pls don't ask your runner/moles to ask me out as I know all ur so called safe queens' millesimation and I have unpolished case, bezel, lever, crown, crown bridge & caseback for comparison.
I even know which shop u get it done & when u get done.

If ur millesimation is altered, pls dun bother.
Pls do not email me out if u cannot meet ALL the above conditions as I don't wish to waste your time.
Thanks.
Rgds,

Well, I hope poster gets what he wants. I know if I have something that fits all these requirements, my best price would be way above mkt price.

[Fred_Tan]

By the way, if indeed I'm an imposter, why I still can post in all forums

P.com
VP.com
VRF
BIGWatch
Panereh
SG-ROC
The Rolex Forum
WatchNet
TimeZone
TZ-UK
WatchTalkForum
TURF
DeluxeMall
WatchUSeek
Eq of Time
WWF
ConnectingWatches

If I have multi login ID & multiple names like Rusell, Chong, Teo, Cedric & whatever other than Fred Tan, don't u think it's funny that I still can post in all e above 17 forums since 2008?

Someone must have been able to detect my static IP & IP address by now, if indeed I've been using multiple identity in forums and face-2-face, eh?

Are u implying the moderators are tolerating this behaviour, when they are actually NOT & will never even hesitate to ban in seconds when they find this, if indeed these accusations are true.

Dun forget moderators and members in this & other forum have deal with me face2face all over e world & no one has posted anything negative on me.

& I dun see any problem anywhere except some members in SG-ROC that I suspect are moles who work for local traders whom have lost business bcos of me.

If u r polishing watches and claiming otherwise, I'll keep my mouth shut.
Have I told anyone? Absolutely no.
Do I endorse this tactic by traders? NO!
Do I do such things? Hell No!

People have seen u running watches to polishing ctrs for these traders.
Golden Mile Complex is a nice place to sip tea & observe as these so called traders & these days, their moles make an entrance to these workshop.
The coffee here is bad & e tea is worst but it's worst the study.

The nearby Nasi Warung Pariaman is a good place for lunch.

If u file off e "4" in ur case, and use thinner to erase millesimation, name & dates off warranty booklets & get caught, is it my fault though I maybe responsible to helping to catch u?

Ur shop now have hardly anyone visiting even when u have close to 30 watches.
Is tat my fault too when ur price is too high & u r known for selling plished watches and claiming otherwise on many occasion?

U get caught for income, GST tax evasion & paid hefty fines.
Is that my fault too?

Have I harm ur trade before.
Have I said anything bad about u & ur business & ur watches?

I have even bring many clients to ur shop and recommended many more.
Why flame e members here when I only take away business of 6-7 watches from ya tis yr?

Why bother creating so many phantom membership here and give each of ur phantom members up to 20+ good trade feedback since 2008 in SG-ROC and only post to frame me with false accusations?
Why is all ur trade feedback are only among e few SAME 20+ ppl?
Only 20+ ppl play watches in SG-ROC?

Why is all of u 20+ members here sell no watches and e only post I see are tirades against me since 2008?
This is not e 1st attack by u all.
This will not be e last.
Many of u moles have been banned here for flaming me directly in e past.
But u keep coming back with new nicks.

How come I dun see e same 20+ nicks in other forums?
U only exist in SG-ROC?

Now u r adopting a in-direct attack by calling me thru food names.
I like it!
Thanks to ur posts in another thread last week where 5000+ have seen ur post, I've sold 3 watches (317, 249 & 318) in less than 2 weeks. really appreciate e wanton noodle publicity.
It really works.

While other grey sellers hardly sold anything this year, I've sold 6 watches maybe 7 by noon today thanks to u moles here.

Keep it up.
I can pay by wanton noodles if u wan.
Just call me 8179.9089.
If I'm in town, I will be with u in 45min anywhere.

If u have proof that I have scammed anyone, pretend to be anyone other than myself, pls provide it to all the moderators of all the 17 forums above.
I am sure they will like to kill me.

[Ender]

What is e funniest of e funny.
Again I wanna ask.
Me or u?
Why e interest to attack me?
It seem's like e only post u made here are attack against me or Cedric, Lim, Fried Wan Tan or Rusell, Teo, Chong or whatever that u wanna link to me.
Tell me u r not a mole.
I think the moderator should check your IP address.
It could be coming from grey traders shop in shopping complex....

I have not met KuchingKu before. I have a bro here who has met with him.

Can you share with us why you think KK is a mole for grey trader and why this grey trader has an issue against you, and what this issue is?

As far as I can recall from your previous posts, are you not also a grey trader? What's your biff against grey traders? I get all my watches from grey traders!

[Ender]

P.com
VP.com
VRF
BIGWatch
Panereh
SG-ROC
The Rolex Forum
WatchNet
TimeZone
TZ-UK
WatchTalkForum
TURF
DeluxeMall
WatchUSeek
Eq of Time
WWF
ConnectingWatches

If I have multi login ID & multiple names like Rusell, Chong, Teo, Cedric & whatever other than Fred Tan, don't u think it's funny that I still can post in all e above 17 forums since 2008?

Someone must have been able to detect my static IP & IP address by now, if indeed I've been using multiple identity in forums and face-2-face, eh?

Are u implying the moderators are tolerating this behaviour, when they are actually NOT & will never even hesitate to ban in seconds when they find this, if indeed these accusations are true.

Dun forget moderators and members in this & other forum have deal with me face2face all over e world & no one has posted anything negative on me.

& I dun see any problem anywhere except some members in SG-ROC that I suspect are moles who work for local traders whom have lost business bcos of me.

If u r polishing watches and claiming otherwise, I'll keep my mouth shut.
Have I told anyone? Absolutely no.
Do I endorse this tactic by traders? NO!
Do I do such things? Hell No!

People have seen u running watches to polishing ctrs for these traders.
Golden Mile Complex is a nice place to sip tea & observe as these so called traders & these days, their moles make an entrance to these workshop.
The coffee here is bad & e tea is worst but it's worst the study.

The nearby Nasi Warung Pariaman is a good place for lunch.

If u file off e "4" in ur case, and use thinner to erase millesimation, name & dates off warranty booklets & get caught, is it my fault though I maybe responsible to helping to catch u?

Ur shop now have hardly anyone visiting even when u have close to 30 watches.
Is tat my fault too when ur price is too high & u r known for selling plished watches and claiming otherwise on many occasion?

U get caught for income, GST tax evasion & paid hefty fines.
Is that my fault too?

Have I harm ur trade before.
Have I said anything bad about u & ur business & ur watches?

I have even bring many clients to ur shop and recommended many more.
Why flame e members here when I only take away business of 6-7 watches from ya tis yr?

Why bother creating so many phantom membership here and give each of ur phantom members up to 20+ good trade feedback since 2008 in SG-ROC and only post to frame me with false accusations?
Why is all ur trade feedback are only among e few SAME 20+ ppl?
Only 20+ ppl play watches in SG-ROC?

Why is all of u 20+ members here sell no watches and e only post I see are tirades against me since 2008?
This is not e 1st attack by u all.
This will not be e last.
Many of u moles have been banned here for flaming me directly in e past.
But u keep coming back with new nicks.

How come I dun see e same 20+ nicks in other forums?
U only exist in SG-ROC?

Now u r adopting a in-direct attack by calling me thru food names.
I like it!
Thanks to ur posts in another thread last week where 5000+ have seen ur post, I've sold 3 watches (317, 249 & 318) in less than 2 weeks. really appreciate e wanton noodle publicity.
It really works.

While other grey sellers hardly sold anything this year, I've sold 6 watches maybe 7 by noon today thanks to u moles here.

Keep it up.
I can pay by wanton noodles if u wan.
Just call me 8179.9089.
If I'm in town, I will be with u in 45min anywhere.

If u have proof that I have scammed anyone, pretend to be anyone other than myself, pls provide it to all the moderators of all the 17 forums above.
I am sure they will like to kill me.

wall of text attack!

VP.com, VRF, BIGWatch, Panereh, SG-ROC, The Rolex Forum, WatchNet
TimeZone, TZ-UK, WatchTalkForum, TURF, DeluxeMall, WatchUSeek, Eq of Time, WWF, ConnectingWatches
If I have multi login ID & multiple names like Rusell, Chong, Teo, Cedric & whatever other than Fred Tan, don't u think it's funny that I still can post in all e above 17 forums since 2008?

Someone must have been able to detect my static IP & IP address by now, if indeed I've been using multiple identity in forums and face-2-face, eh?
We have been through this before in another thread.
Just on TZ-UK, if you are a member of TZ-UK, care to share with us what your ID is there? Cannot find any posts by member 'Fred Tan'.
In any case, your reasoning is flawed - what's so funny that you are allowed to use different IDs for different forums? Being a member of these forums also means nothing unless you are an established and noted member of each of them? On WUS, my ID is A and on SG-ROC, my ID is B, why should the forums ban me?
These forums may tolerate you havin different IDs because there is nothing wrong in that but the members' grouses are you are on a different issue altogether.

Are u implying the moderators are tolerating this behaviour, when they are actually NOT & will never even hesitate to ban in seconds when they find this, if indeed these accusations are true.

As above.

Dun forget moderators and members in this & other forum have deal with me face2face all over e world & no one has posted anything negative on me.
Eh, I think all these problems you having (name me any other grey dealer in Singapore that has the same problems you have) are because of the way you have been representing yourself via the internet.

& I dun see any problem anywhere except some members in SG-ROC that I suspect are moles who work for local traders whom have lost business bcos of me.
Maybe. But you must agree that it is strange that only you get targetted and not any other grey-dealer? I do not see Kim Choy, the Lois, Kenneth & Co. etc being flamed the way you have. And they have been in the biz much longer than you.

If u r polishing watches and claiming otherwise, I'll keep my mouth shut.
Have I told anyone? Absolutely no.
Do I endorse this tactic by traders? NO!
Do I do such things? Hell No!
But you did caught trying to sell a fake rolex bracelet on VRF and you did assemble a rojak 'complete' watch and tried selling it as if it's a complete original package yes? Btw, all these came from your recent exploits on VRF.

People have seen u running watches to polishing ctrs for these traders.
Golden Mile Complex is a nice place to sip tea & observe as these so called traders & these days, their moles make an entrance to these workshop.
The coffee here is bad & e tea is worst but it's worst the study.
C'mon, having tea with dealers makes me a mole for them?! Jialat, like that, I am mole for alot of dealers too, including car dealers, housing agents etc.

The nearby Nasi Warung Pariaman is a good place for lunch.

If u file off e "4" in ur case, and use thinner to erase millesimation, name & dates off warranty booklets & get caught, is it my fault though I maybe responsible to helping to catch u?
Ur shop now have hardly anyone visiting even when u have close to 30 watches.
Is tat my fault too when ur price is too high & u r known for selling plished watches and claiming otherwise on many occasion?

Wahhh.. SIC ley!

U get caught for income, GST tax evasion & paid hefty fines.
Is that my fault too?

Are you referring to the same dealer that you said you powtoh to IRAS before? No wonder he pissed with you lah...but karma's a biatch

Have I harm ur trade before.
Have I said anything bad about u & ur business & ur watches?

Aarrrbutthen, if you bun-knife him to IRAS.....

I have even bring many clients to ur shop and recommended many more.
Why flame e members here when I only take away business of 6-7 watches from ya tis yr?
Why bother creating so many phantom membership here and give each of ur phantom members up to 20+ good trade feedback since 2008 in SG-ROC and only post to frame me with false accusations?
Who are these 20+ good trade feedback members?

Why is all ur trade feedback are only among e few SAME 20+ ppl?
Only 20+ ppl play watches in SG-ROC?
Why is all of u 20+ members here sell no watches and e only post I see are tirades against me since 2008?
This is not e 1st attack by u all.
This will not be e last.
Many of u moles have been banned here for flaming me directly in e past.
But u keep coming back with new nicks.
How come I dun see e same 20+ nicks in other forums?
U only exist in SG-ROC?
Nothing new here. So, as above.

Now u r adopting a in-direct attack by calling me thru food names.
I like it!
Thanks to ur posts in another thread last week where 5000+ have seen ur post, I've sold 3 watches (317, 249 & 318) in less than 2 weeks. really appreciate e wanton noodle publicity.
It really works.
I guess you are being sarcastic here. But if it works, then let it be loh...

While other grey sellers hardly sold anything this year, I've sold 6 watches maybe 7 by noon today thanks to u moles here.
Nothing new here. As above.
Keep it up.
I can pay by wanton noodles if u wan.
Just call me 8179.9089.
If I'm in town, I will be with u in 45min anywhere.

If u have proof that I have scammed anyone, pretend to be anyone other than myself, pls provide it to all the moderators of all the 17 forums above.
I am sure they will like to kill me
Muahahahahha, here we go again....

[Fred_Tan]

Fake bracelets

wall of text attack!


If u r polishing watches and claiming otherwise, I'll keep my mouth shut.
Have I told anyone? Absolutely no.
Do I endorse this tactic by traders? NO!
Do I do such things? Hell No!
But you did caught trying to sell a fake rolex bracelet on VRF and you did assemble a rojak 'complete' watch and tried selling it as if it's a complete original package yes? Btw, all these came from your recent exploits on VRF.
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It's not my intention to sell a fake Rolex Bracelet with my watch.
The watch is real and the bracelet that came with it was a fake.
I don't have much knowledge is Rolex especially vintage and when it was pointed out, I removed the post in all post including SG-ROC immediately.
It's not my intention to pass a fake as real.

I have also informed moderators here in SG-ROC and all forums that the post has to be taken down as the bracelets is fake very the moment expert in VRF pointed it out.

I've reposted the same watch sans the bracelet in VRF without any issue as below:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/20767...28III+%9158%29

Do not accuse me of selling fakes as no one has ever received anything fake from me

[Fred_Tan]

wall of text attack!

People have seen u running watches to polishing ctrs for these traders.
Golden Mile Complex is a nice place to sip tea & observe as these so called traders & these days, their moles make an entrance to these workshop.
The coffee here is bad & e tea is worst but it's worst the study.
C'mon, having tea with dealers makes me a mole for them?! Jialat, like that, I am mole for alot of dealers too, including car dealers, housing agents etc.

Have tea with dealers is not a matter.
Bringing watches after watches for dealer to polish every week is another matter alltogether.
Just goto Golden Mile Complex & have a look

[Fred_Tan]

No biff, baff & but

I have not met KuchingKu before. I have a bro here who has met with him.

Can you share with us why you think KK is a mole for grey trader and why this grey trader has an issue against you, and what this issue is?

As far as I can recall from your previous posts, are you not also a grey trader? What's your biff against grey traders? I get all my watches from grey traders!

I have no biff against anyone here or other forum.
Ppl who works for traders here as mole do have biff against me.

[Mille]

Can you quote me & show to everyone here that I "put other people down, call other people names, make fun of other watchmaking brands whilst worshipping panerai at the same time"

I wear an expensive watch?
Wow, I didn't know that.
Have we met or are u just another troll?

http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=30758

[Fred_Tan]

wall of text attack!

VP.com, VRF, BIGWatch, Panereh, SG-ROC, The Rolex Forum, WatchNet
TimeZone, TZ-UK, WatchTalkForum, TURF, DeluxeMall, WatchUSeek, Eq of Time, WWF, ConnectingWatches
If I have multi login ID & multiple names like Rusell, Chong, Teo, Cedric & whatever other than Fred Tan, don't u think it's funny that I still can post in all e above 17 forums since 2008?

Someone must have been able to detect my static IP & IP address by now, if indeed I've been using multiple identity in forums and face-2-face, eh?
We have been through this before in another thread.
Just on TZ-UK, if you are a member of TZ-UK, care to share with us what your ID is there? Cannot find any posts by member 'Fred Tan'.
In any case, your reasoning is flawed - what's so funny that you are allowed to use different IDs for different forums? Being a member of these forums also means nothing unless you are an established and noted member of each of them? On WUS, my ID is A and on SG-ROC, my ID is B, why should the forums ban me?
These forums may tolerate you havin different IDs because there is nothing wrong in that but the members' grouses are you are on a different issue altogether.

TURF, sorry not TZ-UK, I copied & pasted my bookmarks wrongly.
My point is have u seen the same things with same completeness, same condition & same pics been sold in other forum with others' name?
There's only one name that I've ever used.

In fact we have the exact situation in SG-ROC where traders uses multi-login or hire moles to post & lynch me.

[Fred_Tan]

wall of text attack!

& I dun see any problem anywhere except some members in SG-ROC that I suspect are moles who work for local traders whom have lost business bcos of me.
Maybe. But you must agree that it is strange that only you get targetted and not any other grey-dealer? I do not see Kim Choy, the Lois, Kenneth & Co. etc being flamed the way you have. And they have been in the biz much longer than you.

How do u know they are not going against me for stealing their business.
I'm not saying it's them....
How do you know?