Help! I've been cheated!!

[leftfield]

Let's just for discussion sake, assume I am the seller here (I will be accused for speaking up on behalf of the seller anyway so might as well admit it)

One day someone calls me up, claims that she bought a watch from me 8 months ago and she just realised that it is a fake and wants me to do something about it.

Now, I am bewildered and somewhat annoyed that she is calling me 8 months later to dispute this but the lady is persistent and expects me to respond, I got irritated and told her that this is not fair to me. Given that I cannot even clearly recall what happpened back then, I refused to meet and left it as it is.

Now the buyer proceeds to post in two well known watch forums that I am a suspected scammer for the following reasons (please pay attention here as this will be the guiding principle for us to identify would be scammers in future)

1) I was rude and 'arrogant'
2) I buy and sell U boats from 'clubs' frequently and is therefore suspicious
3) I buy and sell small items on Ebay often, so that I can get good ratings on Ebay to pose off as a genuine seller to scam people

Meanwhile, the buyer delays verifying the watch as she is simply too busy while I continue to be a suspected scammer.

Now, this could only lead to the following scenarios after the buyer verifies the watch:
1) Watch is indeed a fake and my details will be posted in full glory (or my hp number that is, since my full name has already been given and details of the my working place hinted). To which I will deserve it since I am indeed a scammer.

2) Watch is proven to be authentic, and buyer comes clean to me, tell me about the posts she made about me accusing me of being a scammer. I will be so touched by her honesty that i agree to go a KTV and sing song together with her.

3) Buyer realised she had shot herself in the foot, kept all the gory details from me but apologizes in the forum anyway to show others that she is remorseful. However, if someone ever does a search for U Boat in the forums, my name will always come up as a suspected scammer who sells fake U boat watches till time memorial. Meanwhile I continue to be ignorant of my new found fame.

I am waiting with abated breath to see how this saga unfolds in the end.

[Sinner]

i am also very interested to see how it unfolds.
chill bro, if really u r innocent then go sing song n let it pass.
maybe dinner as well.

[leftfield]

i am also very interested to see how it unfolds.
chill bro, if really u r innocent then go sing song n let it pass.
maybe dinner as well.

Errr.....please read my post again.

[crusader]

time for a laugh

i am also very interested to see how it unfolds.
chill bro, if really u r innocent then go sing song n let it pass.
maybe dinner as well.

uhmmm....... first she muz pretty and give half ball or i rather stay at home n stare at my beautiful timepiece

[turbocharged]

Errr.....please read my post again.

This is a good example of why I am against such rash postings in forums. Many forummers don't even read each posting carefully much less the whole thread that may run into pages with lots of chaff thrown into the mix. With an inflammatory title like this, its always a case of being guilty until proven innocent. For this seller Miki Khoo unfortunately, his integrity will be forever tainted no matter what transpires next.

[Rawdeel]

Seven flipin pages later, still no verification? Come on already........

[edsonchan]

Seven flipin pages later, still no verification? Come on already........

I don't understand why is it so difficult to authenticate this watch with the correct source also.... Keep on going to a watch dealer whom he agreed that he might not know about U Boat.

Or maybe already authenticate...... ?????????

[Ender]

Anyone who gives a differing viewpoint is the seller or friend of the seller? Listen to yourselves sometimes This is the most juvenile of forum attacks against someone who speaks against the lynch mob.

You guys can come here to crucify someone without proof just because you can remain anonymous? I have seen this type of situation all so often. When you are proven wrong, you will just change the nick or just disappear from the forum leaving the person you attacked maligned for as long as the thread exists in the forum. Where is the justice in allowing people to accuse others without proof and without the other party present to defend himself/herself?

Princess_glyn, you should have verified that you have indeed been cheated before you come here and tell everyone so. That is the point of my post. If you are proven wrong, you think you can repay whatever you have cost the seller in reputation and goodwill? You accused someone of a crime without proof and that's what irks me. If you have the proof and you just want to state your case here, I would definitely have been on your side. I hate scammers as much as anyone here.

If no one dares to speak up for those who aren't here to defend themselves, then what would the world become? Those that talks loudest or behaves the most aggressively are the sole holder of the truth? I'm sure any reasonable person would be able to see the sense of my posting. Truth be told, if I'm the seller and I have done no such thing as what the buyer has accused me of, I wouldn't bother to reply in here. I would save the whole thread and get the lawyer to settle this. Whether you guys choose to attack me as being the seller or friends of the seller, or choose to open your eyes and see how you can be a victim of such an accusation next time when you sell a watch online, so be it.

Chill bro.. see my post. We have the same concerns except you appear to be more militant in your presentation.
Assuming that TS is real (and not some 45 yr old balding and bearded pervy w*nking away to each sympathetic response he got on this thread), let's give TS some time to resolve the fundamental issue of authenticity. If watch is real, it is only fair if TS admits her mistake and requests her initial post to be amended (mods, I hope this can be done?).

[Ender]

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One day someone calls me up, claims that she bought a watch from me 8 months ago and she just realised that it is a fake and wants me to do something about it.
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MR KHOO SPOTTED!!!!!
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Just joking but for me, if the watch leaves my possession for even 1hr to a seller that I am not familar with, I will not even entertain any "it's not real etc, pls refund" what more 8 months ago.

Ender

[leftfield]

MR KHOO SPOTTED!!!!!
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Just joking but for me, if the watch leaves my possession for even 1hr to a seller that I am not familar with, I will not even entertain any "it's not real etc, pls refund" what more 8 months ago.

Ender

Hahahaha, someone did thought I was Mr. Khoo!

I am just amazed that people continue to take things at face value even in the www world where anything goes.

Whoever yells for attention first gets the advantage.

Imagine if the tables were turned and Mr Khoo posted first, saying someone called him claiming a watch he sold 8 months ago was a fake, u can imagine the comments here wld be very different but probably written by the same people as well!

[edsonchan]

Hahahaha, someone did thought I was Mr. Khoo!

I am just amazed that people continue to take things at face value even in the www world where anything goes.

Whoever yells for attention first gets the advantage.

Imagine if the tables were turned and Mr Khoo posted first, saying someone called him claiming a watch he sold 8 months ago was a fake, u can imagine the comments here wld be very different but probably written by the same people as well!

Bro, whoever you are, you did want people to think that you are the seller in the first place.

Face value or not, I do not agree with you.

Even from the start of this thread, there are people supporting AND opposing TS.

Many of us did not jump into conclusion and wanted to know only the truth - whether the watch is real or fake. Perpetually reminding TS to authenticate it.

According to your post;
If you are indeed the seller, you seemed defensive.
If you are not the seller, the world is not what you think it is.

[CFC]

well said bro.

[Rawdeel]

All comments seem benign, since still no flipin update. Woulda, coulda , shouda....

[leftfield]

Bro, whoever you are, you did want people to think that you are the seller in the first place.

Face value or not, I do not agree with you.

Even from the start of this thread, there are people supporting AND opposing TS.

Many of us did not jump into conclusion and wanted to know only the truth - whether the watch is real or fake. Perpetually reminding TS to authenticate it.

According to your post;
If you are indeed the seller, you seemed defensive.
If you are not the seller, the world is not what you think it is.

Assumptions, assumptions, I certainly cannot control what u want to infer from my posts, whether I am defensive or the world is not what I think it is. I leave it to the rest to interpret what i say, an single opinion does not mean anything to me.

Agree that there were pple supporting and opposing the TS but read through the string of posts and it appears the views are not balanced. Whoever gives an alternative view is immediately branded as the seller, myself included.

I think you should file up all the communications that you made with him.

Keep and save all the emails, SMS if there is.... then make a police report.

Find people to trace him down using the HP number.

As long as you have proof mentioning that he told you before this is suppose to be a geniune U boat, i think the case is valid

Even you yourself also seem to allude that Mr. Khoo is guilty.

All comments seem benign, since still no flipin update. Woulda, coulda , shouda....

Hahahhaha, my point exactly. Seller rude so he is suspicious but buyer delays doing the authentication but no conclusion there......how come like that one? And TS has been silent for the last few days while we continue to assume here and assume there.

this guy goes by the nick of khoo something or something khoo in ebay right?That time I wanna buy a U-Boat flight Deck from him and as stated in the post he say that he found the watch @ clubs and selling it off cheaply and say that he does'nt own any u-boat watches and I felt strange that he say he dose'nt own any U-boat watches then i go see his past transactions and saw that he had sold quite a few U-boat mainly classico.So after seeing this,I think the seller is trying to hide something so I give the watch a miss.Hope everything turn out well for u. Hai~~!! this world is geting more & more complicated.

well said bro.

Of course well said lah, Mr. Khoo is already a scammer as far as you are concerned based on your Sherlock Homles deduction!

[CFC]

Assumptions, assumptions, I certainly cannot control what u want to infer from my posts, whether I am defensive or the world is not what I think it is. I leave it to the rest to interpret what i say, an single opinion does not mean anything to me.

Agree that there were pple supporting and opposing the TS but read through the string of posts and it appears the views are not balanced. Whoever gives an alternative view is immediately branded as the seller, myself included.



Even you yourself also seem to allude that Mr. Khoo is guilty.



Hahahhaha, my point exactly. Seller rude so he is suspicious but buyer delays doing the authentication but no conclusion there......how come like that one? And TS has been silent for the last few days while we continue to assume here and assume there.





Of course well said lah, Mr. Khoo is already a scammer as far as you are concerned based on your Sherlock Homles deduction!

I nv stated or ever say that he's guilty or whatsoever,I'm just sharing my experience with the seller to the TS.Based on my experience with the seller,I just feel that there's too much doubt with the seller that's why I give the watch that the seller is selling a miss.Pls read through all my reply again and think abit it.If u think that my reply or comment are too subjective.I'LL REST MY CASE! There's no need to get so hostile.This forum is just a place to share our experience and try to help each other out instead of throwing the TS into more fear or so.