How low to be considered low ballers?

[socketer]

What was your initial offer? Was he polite when he offered a much lower price? although he did have his reasons, if he is apologetic about it, I reckon we can still accept it. From the way you described him (he still say his offer stand only for a day) I tend to think he is one hella low baller! any view?

My asking price was $5700. The member was polite lar, so thumbs up for that. Maybe he really felt $4000 was a fair price...thus the bargain tactic (offer stand for one day).

[socketer]

Shall we expose folks like that around here? using underhand methods to skive extra $$$ from sincere buyers ! totally lacked of integrity ! You better have the watch verified ! If he can do that, I am sure he may mod the set !!

Being able to keep to one's words is very important to a seller's reputation, especially those who regularly sell over here. Can PM me who this is?

Er he still has one or two sales thread open here, so you see wordy sales thread, good chance its him... No need to name the member bah, sharing here just to let everyone know such tactics are still practiced...

[shou.biao.kuang]

A bit obvious

expose this reputable seller please
we all want to know who is this - is it any of the following:
1. brei****
2. horo***
3. stev****
4. barr***
5. kc****
6. 1983****
7. zen****
8. blan***
9. ndr**
10. dron***

or others? but from your describe 'wordy ad'... hmmm, seem like narrow down to the guy with numbers id

Wa dude! A bit obvious man with this list!! ahaha... They are making a small living, probably on the side too.. not nice lah...

[Mezz72]

On a similar topic, I met a reputable seller here who jacked up price 2hrs prior to meet up. I confirmed price with him, and he reserved it for my viewing/deal... He say someone else offered him $100 more... I din want to make things difficult, so matched the price and bought it...
I dare say he sold a lot pieces of watch on this forum, adverts always full of marketing stories... So now I see his advert, I always hope he has learnt to keep his words...

For just $100, you get to see how much his character and integrity is worth. Some cheapskate. If I'm you, I'll just walk away from the deal.

I encounter a sale where I agreed on price with buyer already, and someone who keep bargaining finally wanted to buy n willing to pay $100 more too. I told him sorry, I gave my word already.

Similarly, recently when I bought a watch, seller also steady since we agreed already n he also gentleman and didn't succumb to $100 more tactic from another buyer.

[socketer]

expose this reputable seller please
we all want to know who is this - is it any of the following:

or others? but from your describe 'wordy ad'... hmmm, seem like narrow down to the guy with numbers id

Wah I think no need to name the person lar...

I paid $100 more coz I couldn't tahan the wait, was pissed but I just want to play with the watch... I went bank to queue for $1000 notes, went online shop to add a new strap to my cart, kept my other watches in the safe to keep my wrist free... A bit anti-climax not to get it... So just gave in and pay $100 more...

[socketer]

For just $100, you get to see how much his character and integrity is worth. Some cheapskate. If I'm you, I'll just walk away from the deal.

I encounter a sale where I agreed on price with buyer already, and someone who keep bargaining finally wanted to buy n willing to pay $100 more too. I told him sorry, I gave my word already.

Similarly, recently when I bought a watch, seller also steady since we agreed already n he also gentleman and didn't succumb to $100 more tactic from another buyer.

Very anti-climax not to close the deal... I was all ready to play with it through the night liaoz...

And yes, there are times ppl contact me to buy my watch on sale at very close to my ask price, but promise liao how to back out? Have to forego the $100-200 to keep the promise...

[GarytheSnail]

On a similar topic, I met a reputable seller here who jacked up price 2hrs prior to meet up. I confirmed price with him, and he reserved it for my viewing/deal... He say someone else offered him $100 more... I din want to make things difficult, so matched the price and bought it...
I dare say he sold a lot pieces of watch on this forum, adverts always full of marketing stories... So now I see his advert, I always hope he has learnt to keep his words...

Patrick had a friend that went through the same situation, but he was the seller, the buyer agreed to his price but when they met, came out with all the rubbish reasons just to squeeze him for another $100. And it was not really a big issue, he just made a mountain out of a molehill.

[phantom628]

I had an experience where we have both agreed on the price after some hard bargaining from the buyer and the buyer came down to meet me. He inspected the watch n was satisfied n when he took out the cash to pay, he say he only managed to draw $100 less than the agreed price.

In the end, I also didn't quibble over that $100 n sold the watch to him. This kind of tactic also quite power yah...

[GarytheSnail]

I had an experience where we have both agreed on the price after some hard bargaining from the buyer and the buyer came down to meet me. He inspected the watch n was satisfied n when he took out the cash to pay, he say he only managed to draw $100 less than the agreed price.

In the end, I also didn't quibble over that $100 n sold the watch to him. This kind of tactic also quite power yah...

Oh talk about that! Patrick had one really traumatic experience. After negotiating vaguely on the price of $21,000 he say he wanted to view the watch, so he saw it, say ok and took out $20,000 and put on the table openly at coffeebean. He say that's he has liao, dig our $100 and put on the table then wore the watch on his wrist and prepare to go. Patrick was angry and stopped him!

Patrick told him $20,800 and close the deal. He say he cannot draw anymore, so he claims he will ask his wife transfer me, Patrick said ok, please do on the spot and Patrick will check. Then he roti prata again, Patrick told him we can deal another day, he say oh my wife is in the car (BMW 7 series btw), so we went down. His wife say oh...I only have $102, and ask patrick to take it.

Of course Patrick said no, where's the other $600?! Eventually he squeeze Patrick for the price of $20,500 and managed to find a DBS atm to withdraw the balance.

KNN...worse buyer ever Patrick swears!

[Oceanklassik]

I think in such common situations in relation to trading, there is no right or wrong. It is bascially how two parties had communicated. Different people have different expectations; different encounters, experiences. Has it come across your minds that a seller who backed out in an 'agreed' deal, or tells you that someone else is offering a higher amount, has been a victim once or more?

Just to share. In a previous deal where I was selling a watch, a member ("Mr X") approached me and after some negotiations, agreed (verbally) to transact. The price was agreed upon and a meeting was scheduled a week later. During which, several offers came in and one of it was of higher amount. Being gentleman and keeping my promise to only deal with Mr X as agreed, I waited and before we could meet, and after having rejected all earlier offers including the higher offer, Mr X said he changed his mind and said I did not lose anything! I went back to the one who offered higher and he said he had bought another watch.

So how should I deal in future? Do bear in mind that most negotiations and agreements are normally verbal until both parties meet to deal.

I feel it is best to talk out some basic terms during negotiation or this could go on and on. Normally, if as a seller, I will advise a potential buyer that though we have agreed on the price, I will still honour it and put him in priority for the sale. However, if there is a higher offer in between our meeting, I will let him know and asked if buyer wishes to match or give up. I will not agree on the higher offer immediately.

The situation will be different if a deposit is received by the seller prior to the meeting. In this case, the seller should honour the sale even if there is a higher offer because a partial transaction has been made.

[socketer]

Oh talk about that! Patrick had one really traumatic experience. After negotiating vaguely on the price of $21,000 he say he wanted to view the watch, so he saw it, say ok and took out $20,000 and put on the table openly at coffeebean. He say that's he has liao, dig our $100 and put on the table then wore the watch on his wrist and prepare to go. Patrick was angry and stopped him!

Patrick told him $20,800 and close the deal. He say he cannot draw anymore, so he claims he will ask his wife transfer me, Patrick said ok, please do on the spot and Patrick will check. Then he roti prata again, Patrick told him we can deal another day, he say oh my wife is in the car (BMW 7 series btw), so we went down. His wife say oh...I only have $102, and ask patrick to take it.

Of course Patrick said no, where's the other $600?! Eventually he squeeze Patrick for the price of $20,500 and managed to find a DBS atm to withdraw the balance.

KNN...worse buyer ever Patrick swears!

Wow this buyer bargain power is lvl99...

[triton]

after completing a unhappy transaction, why does member not give a negative iTrader feedback to warn others?

[bliss88]

good advice

I think in such common situations in relation to trading, there is no right or wrong. It is bascially how two parties had communicated. Different people have different expectations; different encounters, experiences. Has it come across your minds that a seller who backed out in an 'agreed' deal, or tells you that someone else is offering a higher amount, has been a victim once or more?

Just to share. In a previous deal where I was selling a watch, a member ("Mr X") approached me and after some negotiations, agreed (verbally) to transact. The price was agreed upon and a meeting was scheduled a week later. During which, several offers came in and one of it was of higher amount. Being gentleman and keeping my promise to only deal with Mr X as agreed, I waited and before we could meet, and after having rejected all earlier offers including the higher offer, Mr X said he changed his mind and said I did not lose anything! I went back to the one who offered higher and he said he had bought another watch.

So how should I deal in future? Do bear in mind that most negotiations and agreements are normally verbal until both parties meet to deal.

I feel it is best to talk out some basic terms during negotiation or this could go on and on. Normally, if as a seller, I will advise a potential buyer that though we have agreed on the price, I will still honour it and put him in priority for the sale. However, if there is a higher offer in between our meeting, I will let him know and asked if buyer wishes to match or give up. I will not agree on the higher offer immediately.

The situation will be different if a deposit is received by the seller prior to the meeting. In this case, the seller should honour the sale even if there is a higher offer because a partial transaction has been made.

[shou.biao.kuang]

For just $100, you get to see how much his character and integrity is worth. Some cheapskate. If I'm you, I'll just walk away from the deal.

I encounter a sale where I agreed on price with buyer already, and someone who keep bargaining finally wanted to buy n willing to pay $100 more too. I told him sorry, I gave my word already.

Similarly, recently when I bought a watch, seller also steady since we agreed already n he also gentleman and didn't succumb to $100 more tactic from another buyer.

Well said that's what we meant by integrity!

[shou.biao.kuang]

Bad boy!!

Oh talk about that! Patrick had one really traumatic experience. After negotiating vaguely on the price of $21,000 he say he wanted to view the watch, so he saw it, say ok and took out $20,000 and put on the table openly at coffeebean. He say that's he has liao, dig our $100 and put on the table then wore the watch on his wrist and prepare to go. Patrick was angry and stopped him!

Patrick told him $20,800 and close the deal. He say he cannot draw anymore, so he claims he will ask his wife transfer me, Patrick said ok, please do on the spot and Patrick will check. Then he roti prata again, Patrick told him we can deal another day, he say oh my wife is in the car (BMW 7 series btw), so we went down. His wife say oh...I only have $102, and ask patrick to take it.

Of course Patrick said no, where's the other $600?! Eventually he squeeze Patrick for the price of $20,500 and managed to find a DBS atm to withdraw the balance.

KNN...worse buyer ever Patrick swears!

Yap agree 100%! This kinda buyer is one of the worst of its kind! rich some more even worse!!