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    Children & wife are at inlaws' place,time to do what i like best,spending time with my watches & listens to my hifi !
    If you are still reading what I am writing you must be really bored or you are slowly lured into the fasinating world of watch collecting !
    Q:WHAT SHALL I WRITE NEXT THEN ???
    We have looked at brands the last time so next lets talk about design & function . Design is an important factor as looks & practicality are always in mens' mind (unlike women they only go for diamonds ! )
    In short there are only 2 categories, namely dress & sport watches.
    I personal dislike dress watches as they usually comes with leather strap,not very practical in this part of the world ! A good strap easily cost $200-$500 which is costly to replace & it stinks after 3 months ! But like I said these are just my personal opinion ! I do have exception,eg.
    Panerai only looks good with leather straps btw their rubber strap sucks !
    So we(men) chose our watches according to our tastes & life style,ask yourself these questions before you want to buy a watch ,do I want a trendy & sharp piece ?or something modern & sporty?or do I prefer something that is classy,retro looking?or am I looking for a tool watch (something for a special purpose) ?
    I do have some suggestions for the above questions,if your are looking for something sporty AP royal oak jumbo & offshore,Rolex sport range,Patek steel models are pretty good choices if you can afford them. Of course how can I forget Panerai !They are the 1 responsible of bringing back big watches! But if you are collecting Panerai stick to their basic historic range,3 hands with date (pam104) & gmt range(pam 88) & selective discontinue models ! Currently market trend is the bigger the better !
    However if you are searching for a tool watch Sinn(eg.144 gmt ti,103 utc ti)earlier range is prefered as the later range are over priced ,Omega(gmt Seamaster),are highly recommended ! 1 watch for every occasion. Up the hill ! Down the stream type ! When buying a tool watch always get the bracelet version.
    Hope these questions will help you to narrow down your search.....



    Next come trendy watches ,Frank Muller tonneau shape has been an icon among its range(master banker),Daniel Roth's watch case also has a unique shape , Gerald Genta's retro sport is also very modern looking,recently Roger Dubuis is also quite popular,not forgetting Cartier,Bvlgari, Hublot(they tried very hard to go in between AP & Panerai price range) & Graham(their swordfish looks pretty weird ! ),but all of them have alot of die hard fan & supportors ! Recently rubber seems to a in thing (be it the bezel or strap)



    As for dress watch Patek ,Breguet,VC,Lange,Blancpain,Zennith(king of chronograph),JLC(reverso),Chronoswiss are nice pieces...........



    A little tip over here regarding dress watches,try to get a watch that is 38mm-40mm in diameter as it hides nicely under your long sleeves shirt. In the past the smaller the case & the more complicated the movements is the better,as it very difficult to house a complicated movement in a small watch case........but things has changed currently collectors seems to prefer big watches instead.




    Above mentioned are some of the watches we have owned before over the past 14-15 years,again some we kept & some we traded or sold ,but our conclusion is if, you only need 1 watch get one with a gmt function with date & bracelet plus a minimum 100-200m water resistance(esp. if u r the type that like to wear your watch to shower)




    Adding on to the above mentioned matte finishing case is much better for out door as it does not reflect light,that is why most military time pieces are in titanimum.Anti-reflection on both sides of the crystal is also prefered.




    Yet when you are doing the actual shopping for that "perfect watch",not many model actually fits the requirements !!!!! Hope you guys can share with us your choices too ! if u have the time.



    Alright I'll stop here,we will go to functions & movements the next time (part 4)

    thanks for reading guys !
    The hardest thing in life is making the 1st million CASH !
    The 2nd hardest thing in life is not spending it !
    The 3rd hardest thing in life is get the whole family together for a simple dinner !

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    overall, i find your opinion bias.

    are you sure women only go for diamonds? i got female friends who do not go for watch decorated with diamonds.

    you say that there are ONLY 2 categories - dress and sport. yet you bring in a third category - tools.

    personally i dont find panerai's radiomir cases looks good with rubber straps.

    why is it that getting tool watch requires getting a bracelet version? why can't rubber? why can't nato straps?

    there is no THAT PERFECT WATCH, that is why i believe most watch collectors have several watches.

    if i were to wear the watch just for shower, i dont think i need a watch that has 100-200m water resistance.

    also i dont think a guy(eg. Arnold Schwarzenegger) with big wrist will look good with a 38-40mm watch. i think it would look odd. as you have pointed out, trend is current watch with big diameter, then why ask people to stick with 38-40mm especially if buyers are following trends?

    Originally posted by timefreak2000 View Post

    We have looked at brands the last time so next lets talk about design & function . Design is an important factor as looks & practicality are always in mens' mind (unlike women they only go for diamonds ! )
    In short there are only 2 categories, namely dress & sport watches.
    I personal dislike dress watches as they usually comes with leather strap,not very practical in this part of the world ! A good strap easily cost $200-$500 which is costly to replace & it stinks after 3 months ! But like I said these are just my personal opinion ! I do have exception,eg.
    Panerai only looks good with leather straps btw their rubber strap sucks !
    So we(men) chose our watches according to our tastes & life style,ask yourself these questions before you want to buy a watch ,do I want a trendy & sharp piece ?or something modern & sporty?or do I prefer something that is classy,retro looking?or am I looking for a tool watch (something for a special purpose) ?
    I do have some suggestions for the above questions,if your are looking for something sporty AP royal oak jumbo & offshore,Rolex sport range,Patek steel models are pretty good choices if you can afford them. Of course how can I forget Panerai !They are the 1 responsible of bringing back big watches! But if you are collecting Panerai stick to their basic historic range,3 hands with date (pam104) & gmt range(pam 88) & selective discontinue models ! Currently market trend is the bigger the better !
    However if you are searching for a tool watch Sinn(eg.144 gmt ti,103 utc ti)earlier range is prefered as the later range are over priced ,Omega(gmt Seamaster),are highly recommended ! 1 watch for every occasion. Up the hill ! Down the stream type ! When buying a tool watch always get the bracelet version.
    Hope these questions will help you to narrow down your search.....

    Next come trendy watches ,Frank Muller tonneau shape has been an icon among its range(master banker),Daniel Roth's watch case also has a unique shape , Gerald Genta's retro sport is also very modern looking,recently Roger Dubuis is also quite popular,not forgetting Cartier,Bvlgari, Hublot(they tried very hard to go in between AP & Panerai price range) & Graham(their swordfish looks pretty weird ! ),but all of them have alot of die hard fan & supportors ! Recently rubber seems to a in thing (be it the bezel or strap)

    As for dress watch Patek ,Breguet,VC,Lange,Blancpain,Zennith(king of chronograph),JLC(reverso),Chronoswiss are nice pieces...........

    A little tip over here regarding dress watches,try to get a watch that is 38mm-40mm in diameter as it hides nicely under your long sleeves shirt. In the past the smaller the case & the more complicated the movements is the better,as it very difficult to house a complicated movement in a small watch case........but things has changed currently collectors seems to prefer big watches instead.

    Above mentioned are some of the watches we have owned before over the past 14-15 years,again some we kept & some we traded or sold ,but our conclusion is if, you only need 1 watch get one with a gmt function with date & bracelet plus a minimum 100-200m water resistance(esp. if u r the type that like to wear your watch to shower)

    Adding on to the above mentioned matte finishing case is much better for out door as it does not reflect light,that is why most military time pieces are in titanimum.Anti-reflection on both sides of the crystal is also prefered.

    Yet when you are doing the actual shopping for that "perfect watch",not many model actually fits the requirements !!!!! Hope you guys can share with us your choices too ! if u have the time.
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    • #3
      Agreed with triton on "girls only go for diamonds" is wrong... my wife is always wearing the explorer I I bought for her... and now she is asking for a PAM now.... OMG....

      Also disagree with you that only go for 38-40mm for dress watches... my dress watch is >40mm... do you think my baby is nice?


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      • #4
        Originally posted by 116520 View Post
        Agreed with triton on "girls only go for diamonds" is wrong... my wife is always wearing the explorer I I bought for her... and now she is asking for a PAM now.... OMG....

        Also disagree with you that only go for 38-40mm for dress watches... my dress watch is >40mm... do you think my baby is nice?


        Swee....

        Good example of a dress watch which is big...

        Think i agree on the part of a perfect watch... think will never meet one as there is none... Nothing can be perfect in this world. Buying watches for me depend on the trend then when i decided to get one. And after spotting something that i like, i will just buy it, provided it is within my means. Honestly, i have liked many watches that went beyond my comfort zone, so no choice, can only see and salivate.

        After sometime, a particular watch may have less wrist time and a new watch takes its place. Its the process that i enjoy and hopefully, don get too many complaints from my wife and mother... hahaha

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        • #5
          thanks Timefreak for the literature.... can feel your passion as well...

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          • #6
            very very nice for my wife wanting a PAM??

            [QUOTE=Andrew Tay;151620]
            Originally posted by 116520 View Post
            Agreed with triton on "girls only go for diamonds" is wrong... my wife is always wearing the explorer I I bought for her... and now she is asking for a PAM now.... OMG....

            Also disagree with you that only go for 38-40mm for dress watches... my dress watch is >40mm... do you think my baby is nice?


            very very nice.

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            • #7
              interestingly my wife is not into diamonds... thank God...

              But she's still a woman and she loves bags... LV, Gucci, Coach... argh...

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              • #8
                thanks for reading !

                thanks for reading & feed back guys !
                The hardest thing in life is making the 1st million CASH !
                The 2nd hardest thing in life is not spending it !
                The 3rd hardest thing in life is get the whole family together for a simple dinner !

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                • #9
                  Thank you for your write-up!!! Can't wait to read part 4!!!

                  Originally posted by timefreak2000 View Post
                  thanks for reading & feed back guys !

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                  • #10
                    thanks for your sharing!
                    there'll surely be a certain biasness in every report written, so be prepared for some debating and disagreement.
                    currently, i cant see the trend of favouring back small watches in the next 5 years...
                    also, leather straps depends on the owner, for me, my straps have no smell and are still in pretty great condition after 1 year of wearing.
                    humblequartz&mechs:
                    gmtIIc.pam104.omegaspeedmaster1152.poljot3150.
                    tagheuerf1chrono.philipsteinteslar.tissotprc200.

                    wantlist:
                    toomanywants,toofewdollarsinthekeep.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by timefreak2000 View Post
                      thanks for reading & feed back guys !
                      thanks for sharing. cheers.

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                      • #12
                        Actually diameter size of dress watches is not the issue. Rather, its the movement thickness (or thinnes in this case).

                        A black tie dress watch will imply black/white face with simple 2 hands or at most a 3 handed with sweep seconds or sub seconds hand. Eg, Piaget Altiplano or JLC Master Ultra Thin.

                        A daily dress watch should also be thin, like the Lange 1815 or Saxonia.

                        A thin movement and case allows for the watch to slip under the cuff without problem.

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                        • #13
                          yes brokenvow there is debating and disagreement everywhere but it is alright
                          just my personal opinion & this is the kopi talk section ya ???? thanks for reading buddy !
                          The hardest thing in life is making the 1st million CASH !
                          The 2nd hardest thing in life is not spending it !
                          The 3rd hardest thing in life is get the whole family together for a simple dinner !

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                          • #14
                            no ! thank u for reading jarren !
                            The hardest thing in life is making the 1st million CASH !
                            The 2nd hardest thing in life is not spending it !
                            The 3rd hardest thing in life is get the whole family together for a simple dinner !

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                            • #15
                              well said wsss ! thickness does does matter especially if u wear cuff links !!!
                              and especially the watch case is made of gold.....
                              The hardest thing in life is making the 1st million CASH !
                              The 2nd hardest thing in life is not spending it !
                              The 3rd hardest thing in life is get the whole family together for a simple dinner !

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