Case Closed : !ABSURD MEMBER: Fastandfuriouschua *ALERT*

[1983leofender]

Hi everyone, I am here to warn you guys of this absurd member username: fastandfuriouschua. He is a new user and just created his account 3 days ago. Be very careful of him and ignore him if you can. I will try my best to relate the whole incident here. This incident happened 3 days ago.

This was what happened…

I posted a 8mths old full set Pam441 full ceramic watch for sale in the forum for $12,980. This watch has a retail price of $15,000. Then this guy *fastandfuriouschua* pm me and say that he saw this watch outside for $6k and ask why did I sell double the price?

If you do a quick check in the forum, it is almost impossible to get this watch for $6k! So I replied that if you can get for $6k, I will counter offer to buy for $10k! I even confirmed that it is in SGD and not some other country’s denomination.

Then he replied, are you sure and say I will hold you responsible etc…

So I was very skeptical and felt that this could be a scam as it is definitely too good to be true. So I replied a whole chunk of words asking him to bring the watch to let me verify etc which he kindly copied it exactly and pasted on my visitor message board…

Following on he replied 2 simple words- Chicken out

And to make things worst, he left a negative feedback for me and even claim that my Pam441 is not original!?! If he claim that my pam441 is not original, please feel free to show me any evidence. In fact, I’ve already sold my Pam441 to a very satisfied buyer and he can bring down to Panerai Richemont or any watchmaker to verify and if it is not original, I will refund him ten times his money and he can take any necessary actions.

Guys, please be very careful of this guy because when I replied him, his inbox was full at a moment and it meant he definitely pmed quite a few of you guys in the forum.

I hope that the moderators can do something about this issue and help me remove his negative feedback and nonsensical visitor message. I also strongly urge the moderators to ban this user because he is definitely harassing and trolling me which is against the rules of this forum. If you need more information, feel free to contact me.

Below are the screenshots of his conversation:







This was what I replied him which he copied and paste on my visitor board

[eeyer]

forget and move ahead bah..

[Antisin]

Thanks for alerting!

[louie]

sorry to hear your experience, i anytime would vouch 1983leofender one of the most easiest and sincere to work seller. Your past 100% business transactions already spoken for you. Would i believe what a member just joined and no contribution postings at all to watch forums? hell no!

Thanks for the heads up, and he is now top in my MTA list!

[1983leofender]

sorry to hear your experience, i anytime would vouch 1983leofender one of the most easiest and sincere to work seller. Your past 100% business transactions already spoken for you. Would i believe what a member just joined and no contribution postings at all to watch forums? hell no!

Thanks for the heads up, and he is now top in my MTA list!

Thank you bro for your kind words...I just hope the moderators can take the neccessary actions to remove the ridiculous negative feedback and also ban this user. If anyone can just create a new account and anyhow give negative feedbacks, what is the point of the feedback system? I also hope to move on from this incident but I just can't take it lying because my reputation is at stake here. How would one feel if you are being wrongly accused of selling fake watches?

[dammonekind]

Hi all!....I personally deal with 1983leofender. No issues with him and he is defiantly a nice and great guy to deal with. So no need to worries about what fastandfurious said.......anyway his nick already shown he is trying to pull a "fast and furious" one........ha ha ha....

[Ed.YEO]

In the first picture, his member status shows as "moderated member", what does that term means?
He claims that he can get new for 6k? Euro huh?

[1983leofender]

has the member who gave TS a -1 feedback viewed the watch already?
if he has not viewed it, on what basis is he giving a -1 feedback that the watch is non-original?
if every buyer does that to sellers (and vice-versa) just because of disagreement on the pricing, or because of some bickering, then there appear to be an inherent flaw in the feedback system and it should be reviewed

Well said. I agree with you on the inherent flaw in the feedback system. That's why there's the need of moderators. I have not even met this fastandduriouschua guy and I do not know who is he. So on what grounds can he give me a negative feedback and even claim that my watch is not original! I have reported this problem here and also to the admin and I hope to get a reply soon. Thanks...

[huatyy]

Thanks for alerting .. Had saw quite a number of post and positive feedback from 1983leofender and although I had not deal with him and am new to this forum. I do believe there are some people out there always trying to tarnish u if they see u are better off.

[toffeesthings]

Wow, have other bros been targeted by this chap before? That said, if he can find original Pam441s at S$6k, I'll whack 10 of them, I'll be even faster and more furious...

Anyways, do not worry Bro Leofender, your sterling reputation precedes you and I'm sure the community knows where it stands on this.

[GadgetGuy]

"Lowballing" is the word. Worse of all is that after unsuccessfully lowballing, a negative feedback is given. All sorts of people in this world.

[XProfessionalX]

Thanks for the heads up.

[Ed.YEO]

bro Ed, lnib 441 6k euro (=10k sgd) is very near preown shop dealers' floorprice...

Factor in the freight cost as well as GST... come close to what TS offered liaoz ley...

[minimerc]

What's his IP address? The PM exchange effectively constitute an agreed deal, pending settlement. Whoever is interested in 6k pam can effect a legal resolution against the Fastfuriousmouth.

[forumname]

Think very soon the forum will be flooded with WTS: bnib 441!